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[Tborze]

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[Velho]

I was watching the second one (SD vs MIA on 8/11). Anyone know when the first one was?  

[Jimurray]

2 hours ago, Velho said:

I was watching the second one (SD vs MIA on 8/11). Anyone know when the first one was?  

Winters explains the rule: MLB umpire reveals reason why Padres got hosed on tough Ha-Seong Kim replay review (friarsonbase.com)

The first was back when Mahtook was playing a few years ago. It either was a kick or a field specific ground rule.

[Velho]

1 hour ago, Jimurray said:

Winters explains the rule: MLB umpire reveals reason why Padres got hosed on tough Ha-Seong Kim replay review (friarsonbase.com)

Tap about garbage publishing decisions. Lying in your headline to correct it in the subhead is a chickens**t move.

 

[The Man in Blue]

Journalistic integrity . . . I miss those days.

I don't even know what this thread is about since I don't do social media, but @Velho's post tells me enough.

[Velho]

 

 

[BLWizzRanger]

OH COME ON!!!! It wasn't a ground rule double.  Had to be an error on the fielder as he pushed the ball out of play.  The runner got 2 bases at TOP!

 

Was the first one before replay because there really is no way for any of the umps to see it come back to the field of play in real time, whether they go out or not.

The explanation given by the umpire makes it easier for the listener to understand, but, when comparing both videos, its the same play (as described) because both balls come back to the field of play.  One hit directly on top of the fence.  The other, one assumes it hits the front padding since the top padding is misaligned or not properly placed on top of the wall. 

[Velho]

1 hour ago, BLWizzRanger said:

Was the first one before replay because there really is no way for any of the umps to see it come back to the field of play in real time, whether they go out or not.

Replay started in 2008. First HR was 2017. https://www.mlb.com/cut4/mikie-mahtook-accidentally-gifted-jose-ramirez-with-a-home-run-c252186714

None of the 5 articles I see from that time mention it was improperly called a HR (one says it was a HR anyway since it hit the yellow padding) nor why it didn't go to replay.

Note the second fielder contact home run (by the same batter) in that same game.

 

[Jimurray]

24 minutes ago, Velho said:

Replay started in 2008. First HR was 2017. https://www.mlb.com/cut4/mikie-mahtook-accidentally-gifted-jose-ramirez-with-a-home-run-c252186714

None of the 5 articles I see from that time mention it was improperly called a HR (one says it was a HR anyway since it hit the yellow padding) nor why it didn't go to replay.

Note the second fielder contact home run (by the same batter) in that same game.

 

 

Yellow lines on top of the fence mean nothing. There are some yellow lines on problematic geometry in some stadiums that do define a HR. I don't think that was a rule kick. It's possible the ump's angle looks like the ball hit the padding and went straight up when Mahtook knocked it over. That would be a ball that did not come back into the field of play so it would be a HR. If it went to replay the side view would negate that judgment as the ball did return into the field of play.

[JSam21]

The only difference is... One went to replay and the other didn't... The one that did was ruled a double. Its pretty simple. But no one in those threads care for that reasoning.

 

 

[BigBlue4u]

5 hours ago, Jimurray said:

Yellow lines on top of the fence mean nothing. There are some yellow lines on problematic geometry in some stadiums that do define a HR. I don't think that was a rule kick. It's possible the ump's angle looks like the ball hit the padding and went straight up when Mahtook knocked it over. That would be a ball that did not come back into the field of play so it would be a HR. If it went to replay the side view would negate that judgment as the ball did return into the field of play.

I am not clear.   Are you talking about the padding at the TOP of the fence?   IN FLIGHT...describes a batted, thrown, or pitched ball which has not yet touched the ground or some object other than a fielder.  A batted that hits a fence or wall, other than at the top of said fence or wall, is not in flight.  A batted ball that hits the top of the fence and goes out of play in fair territory is a home run.

[Jimurray]

49 minutes ago, BigBlue4u said:

 A batted that hits a fence or wall, other than at the top of said fence or wall, is not in flight.  A batted ball that hits the top of the fence and goes out of play in fair territory is a home run.

A batted ball that hits the top of the wall or any part of the wall is not in flight anymore. We then have to decide if it has passed out of the playing field in flight to be a HR. MLBUM clears that up a little and if it bounds into the stands it is a HR and if it bounds back onto the area of the playing field it is a live ball. The 2017 HR might have looked like it didn't bound back into the area of the playing field from the umpire's angle so the fielder touched a ball that had bounded into the stands as a HR. That wasn't the case as we can see from the side angle but it doesn't look like it was reviewed. Or they kicked it.