Unmistakable Appeal?

[Velho]

Short of F1 saying something, is this an unmistakable act to appeal?

 

 

[Tborze]

I’m saying NO!  If an out was called on the catch, maybe things go differently. 

[RBIbaseball]

I don't think I would consider F5 throw to 1B, nor F3 scoop and hold as an appeal.

In my judgement all actions appeared as though they were all on the same page (trying to get B/R out at 1B because they thought it hit the ground). I would need F3 to do something or say something to make it apparent he was appealing R1. 

[flyingron]

I like the cricket use of the word "Howzat?" to indicate appeals

 

[SeeingEyeDog]

Question...at :22 PU takes his mask off and points with his right hand straight out from the plate. Is he pointing at the mound/pitcher to indicate to the crew he has it off the foot and it has not yet hit the ground? What is that mechanic indicating, please?

~Dawg

[Velho]

9 minutes ago, SeeingEyeDog said:

.at :22 PU takes his mask off and points with his right hand straight out from the plate. Is he pointing at the mound/pitcher to indicate to the crew he has it off the foot and it has not yet hit the ground? What is that mechanic indicating, please?

I think it's to indicate "fair ball" in case it goes into foul territory, i.e. it went off the pitcher and not the rubber.

[The Man in Blue]

I guess communication is the missing piece here . . . IF the plate umpire is giving us a catch (OUT!), then it is an unmistakable appeal.  I see him pointing, and I am reading that as "it hit the ground" so no, in that case NOT an "unmistakable" appeal.

[Vegas_Ump]

On 5/7/2024 at 9:54 AM, Tborze said:

I’m saying NO!  If an out was called on the catch, maybe things go differently. 

Isn't the plate ump ruling a "catch"?  He's emphatically pointing. and it looks like he's calling the batter out.

Mike

Las Vegas

[Velho]

I see him pointing and think it's to indicate "fair ball" in case it goes into foul territory, i.e. it went off the pitcher and not the rubber.

I don't see him going to a hammer but emphatically restating the above with arm out at 90 degrees and hand/finger down (similar to an exaggerated "balls on the ground" mechanic). I could be wrong. Camera moves fast and I didn't go Zapruder on it.

[maven]

I agree with Velho about the meaning of the point.

I have no idea for pro ball or NCAA whether this constitutes an unmistakable appeal. It would not in an amateur game below NCAA.

[The Man in Blue]

In the amateur game below NCAA, NOTHING is unmistakable.

[JSam21]

On 5/28/2024 at 6:35 PM, maven said:

I agree with Velho about the meaning of the point.

I have no idea for pro ball or NCAA whether this constitutes an unmistakable appeal. It would not in an amateur game below NCAA.

This would not be. Can't tell if F5 is trying to retire the batter runner thinking it was uncaught or make an appeal on R1's failure to retouch.