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TLDR; in LL Majors Baseball, can a pitcher removed from a game suspended for darkness re-enter when the game resumes on another day as long as they have met mandatory days of rest?

LL Majors Baseball rules. I was PU for a game suspended for darkness, trying to get a read on LL rules for pitcher eligibility when the game resumes today. The game was suspended in the top of the 5th inning, but the score was tied after 4 innings so we continue the game where it left off. All good there.

Rule 4.12 addresses suspended games. Pitchers of record may continue in the resumed game as long as they have met minimum days of rest. Everything else about the lineups is governed by substitution and mandatory play rules in Rule 3.03. I interpret that to mean that pitchers previously removed from the suspended game may not re-enter the resumed game today even if they have met minimum days of rest; only the pitchers of record at the time the game was suspended may continue.

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In Regulation VI(k) NOTE 3, it confirms that the pitchers of record may continue if they have met minimum days of rest. Three examples appear just below the note, which I interpret to apply to the pitchers of record at the time the game was suspended. One of the managers is arguing that the examples below NOTE 3 apply to all pitchers in the suspended game, i.e. pitchers already removed from the game are eligible to re-enter when the game resumes if they have met required days of rest. For all you LL rule experts out there, what's your take on this interpretation?

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21 minutes ago, BDad said:

I interpret that to mean that pitchers previously removed from the suspended game may not re-enter the resumed game today even if they have met minimum days of rest; only the pitchers of record at the time the game was suspended may continue.

Correct. Previously removed pitchers may not re-enter. Basic game rules are still in effect (said with zero snark).

It's as if the game was never suspended EXCEPT for the eligibility of the pitcher of record at the time of suspension - that is about safety (as defined by LL). If they have met days of rest, the pitcher may continue and their pitch count begins at zero.

Catcher to pitcher and pitcher to catcher safety rules would reset as well.

Particularly watch out for suspended resumption before/after another game (which is common). LL pitchers cannot pitch in 2 games the same day, regardless of pitch count.

Also, any batters not previously at the game are added to the bottom of the lineup (same as if they how'd up in the middle of a continuously played game) and any missing batters are skipped (and outs applied for skipping them per the standard rule with local league adoptions appropriate).

This should be a longer plate meeting. Hopefully things were agreed to before the resumption but go through the above so everyone in on the same page.

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4 minutes ago, Velho said:

Also, any batters not previously at the game are added to the bottom of the lineup (same as if they how'd up in the middle of a continuously played game) and any missing batters are skipped (and outs applied for skipping them per the standard rule with local league adoptions appropriate).

Thanks! Yep, playing another game right after, so I got the can't pitch in 2 games same day. Trying to get agreement on everything before the plate meeting so we just have to review.

Curious about your interp of players not previously at the suspended game. I would have thought it's the same as a player arriving to a game late--they can be added as available subs (not using continuous batting order). And if all available subs are locked into the lineup and a starter is missing in the resumed game, we go to the opposing manager chooses which person on the bench can replace the missing starter (similar to an injury or ejection situation).

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24 minutes ago, BDad said:

Curious about your interp of players not previously at the suspended game. I would have thought it's the same as a player arriving to a game late--they can be added as available subs (not using continuous batting order). And if all available subs are locked into the lineup and a starter is missing in the resumed game, we go to the opposing manager chooses which person on the bench can replace the missing starter (similar to an injury or ejection situation).

You're correct. Everyone here uses CBO so my mind frame is there and (improperly) went to just that context.

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Those examples are UNDER Regulation VI(k) Note 3, which refers to the "pitchers of record".  It is plural because there are two, one for each team. 

The pitchers of record are the ones who were pitching at the time of the suspension.  It was tied at the bottom of the fourth so the pitchers of record are the visitor's pitcher who completed the fourth inning and the home pitcher who was pitching when it was suspended.  None of the past pitchers in the game can get a win or a loss so they are not pitchers of record.

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