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Forced runner tagged out for third out well after run scores
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Tog Gee
I am a coach and an umpire but in this game I was pretty much just keeping the score book. Yes there were many things wrong in the execution of this play. We have some unpolished players. I just need to know if the run counted.
Bases loaded and 2 outs.
A fly ball is hit high to left field and r3 takes off for home. He scores easily. R2 is apparently unaware that there's two outs and kind of lingers near second base waiting to see if the ball is caught.
The ball is not caught and now r2 takes off for third base while the left fielder throws the ball to the shortstop. The shortstop gets things back on track and throws to the third baseman who is not at the base but closer to his normal fielding position. He ends up tagging r2 directly, 6 feet from the base.
This play actually took quite some time to unfold because of the High fly ball and then throwing the ball around. So a few folks thought the run counted.
I think if the third out is an out on a forced runner who did not advance to the base they had to get to, no runs count. I don't believe it matters that the third baseman tagged him rather than stepping on third base.
Do I have that right?
tog
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Another way to explain it that might help others to understand is that "force" is a status applied to the runner, not the method in which a runner is put out. The runner is forced until something
love to ump
you are correct..no run scored
love to ump
beer guys explanation of "force" being the status of runner really works well...I had a "trainer" last spring in LL clinic getting confused on what constitutes a timing play, he was stuck on the myth
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