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Run scored before 3rd out
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Guest Chris
Here’s the situation. There are runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs. Batter hits a ground ball to 3rd baseman. Instead of throwing to first to get the force, the third baseman chases down the runner on second (who is retreating back towards the second base bag), and tags him out. It’s possible the runner on 3rd scored BEFORE the tag out, however it’s also just as likely the batter himself never reached first base before the runner on second was tagged for the third out. Does the run count?
Our team’s argument is that it should not count because the batter never made it (and occupied) first base on the play, and the tag was (likely) made before the runner made it to first. We also argued that since the runner (likely) didn’t make it to first until after the tag, the 3rd baseman still had a force out option at first even though he chose to tag the runner, and therefore the run shouldn’t could. If the runner makes it successfully to first before the tag is made, then I can understand how the run would count, since the only option for an out at that point is not a force. I know it’s a judgment call on which happened first, the tag or the runner making it to first, but the 3rd baseman had a much shorter run to tag the runner vs the batter who had to make it all the way down the line to first, so it seems likely a fair assumption.
Does the likelihood that the batter didn’t make it to First before the tag negate the likelihood that the runner on 3rd crossed the plate before the tag out for the third out?
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Long story short, you are incorrect. The rule about the batter reaching first and run not scoring is only applicable when the BATTER is the one you got out. Your fielder chose to make a put-out on R
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Chris, you have received three very good answers to your question and now I would like to tell you how the scorekeepers count this in the book. The batter-runner in your scenario is considered to be l
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