Guest Coach Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Is it a balk if the pitcher picks off to third and his foot hits the ground before he releases the ball. The pitcher stepped to third base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MadMax Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 In OBR and NCAA: Provided he made the throw in one (generally) continuous, natural motion, and you’ve got him – “the pitcher stepped to third base” – with distance and direction towards third base, then you have a legal pick off attempt. It is NOT a Balk. Now, if he was to step towards 3B, and delayed his throwing motion in waiting for F5 to get there, or double-pump it then throw, then you wouldn’t have a legal pick off throw, thus, it would be a Balk. In NFHS (Fed): Provided he steps toward 3B (being occupied) with distance and direction, he doesn’t even need to throw; thus, whether his foot hits the ground prior to throwing (if he in fact throws at all) is inconsequential. Thus, not a Balk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LRZ Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 OBR 6.02(a)(3): it is a balk when the "pitcher, while touching his plate, fails to step directly toward a base before throwing to that base...." [Emphases added.] Taking a step implies lifting the foot and setting it down* which must occur "before throwing" to the base. *Consistent with common sense and ordinary usage, dictionaries define "step" along these lines: " to move by raising the foot and bringing it down elsewhere." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jimurray Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LRZ said: OBR 6.02(a)(3): it is a balk when the "pitcher, while touching his plate, fails to step directly toward a base before throwing to that base...." [Emphases added.] Taking a step implies lifting the foot and setting it down* which must occur "before throwing" to the base. *Consistent with common sense and ordinary usage, dictionaries define "step" along these lines: " to move by raising the foot and bringing it down elsewhere." It doesn't saying releasing the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LRZ Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 You don't read the OP to mean "throw" by the word "release" in the context of "picks off to third"? What scenario are you envisioning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jimurray Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, LRZ said: You don't read the OP to mean "throw" by the word "release" in the context of "picks off to third"? What scenario are you envisioning? I guess I'm wondering if someone literally wants the foot to land before the ball is released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LRZ Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 The rule says "before" so apply it with common sense. If you mean to suggest that "almost simultaneously," "close enough" or "approximately" could satisfy the rule in the real world in which we umpire, I can live with that, as we don't officiate with lasers or micrometers. Besides, the OP asked a question and I quoted the applicable rule, without delving into nuances or interpretations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jimurray Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, LRZ said: The rule says "before" so apply it with common sense. If you mean to suggest that "almost simultaneously," "close enough" or "approximately" could satisfy the rule in the real world in which we umpire, I can live with that, as we don't officiate with lasers or micrometers. Besides, the OP asked a question and I quoted the applicable rule, without delving into nuances or interpretations. Did the rule help the OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 noumpere Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Guest Coach said: Is it a balk if the pitcher picks off to third and his foot hits the ground before he releases the ball. The pitcher stepped to third base. Just the opposite -- It's a balk if the pitcher releases the ball before the front foot hits the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LRZ Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Jimurray said: Did the rule help the OP? Ask him. Besides, the rules always are, or should be, the starting point for getting answers. That's why Senor Azul, for one, is so helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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