LL Base Path

[kylejt]

Out of the base path? Maybe, but that's a geometry question. I can see it either way. 

As for the head first, was it a slide? I think the whole questions there, as LL brain trusts I've heard from, was there a slide involved? Some say there was no skidding along the ground, thus no slide. Others don't take that into account, and just see the head leading the advance. 

 

[SH0102]

Since the point of no head first slide is safety, I have a hard time reading people justify “flying” through the air head first as legal bc it isn’t a slide on the ground.

[Velho]

14 minutes ago, SH0102 said:

I have a hard time reading people justify “flying” through the air head first as legal bc it isn’t a slide on the ground

Maybe it depends on how gracefully you land

 

[Replacematt]

On 8/13/2021 at 11:32 PM, Rich Ives said:

It was not a head first slide.  Kinda sideways past the plate then a reach to the plate.  His head did not lead the way. Not a head first slide.

Just when I think you can't be any more of a troll...

[Rich Ives]

10 hours ago, Matt said:

Just when I think you can't be any more of a troll...

Why is my opinion wrong? It's how I see it.

Umpires at the game didn't think it was head first either.

 

[Tborze]

2 hours ago, Rich Ives said:

Why is my opinion wrong? It's how I see it.

Umpires at the game didn't think it was head first either.

 

C’mon Coach. So now you’re crediting these umps for their judgment?  So what was it, a HF DIVE?

[LMSANS]

It was a judgement call. The guy on the field, his judgement counts.

[ousafe]

Or he missed it.

[Replacematt]

13 hours ago, Rich Ives said:

Why is my opinion wrong? It's how I see it.

Umpires at the game didn't think it was head first either.

 

Did you ask them?

I think your increasing desire to ignore reality for shock value might have something to do with the increased cachet of someone else.

[maven]

4 hours ago, Matt said:

I think your increasing desire to ignore reality for shock value might have something to do with the increased cachet of someone else.

There's a lot of that going around these days.

[Velho]

4 hours ago, maven said:

9 hours ago, Matt said:

I think your increasing desire to ignore reality for shock value might have something to do with the increased cachet of someone else.

There's a lot of that going around these days.

Well, that's ominous. Is @Rich Ives Brad Pitt's cousin or something?

[ArchAngel72]

2 hours ago, Velho said:

Well, that's ominous. Is @Rich Ives Brad Pitt's cousin or something?

 

Burl's kid?

 

[Rich Ives]

12 hours ago, Matt said:

Did you ask them?

I

They didn't call it. Proof enough for me.

[beerguy55]

On 8/15/2021 at 6:18 PM, SH0102 said:

Since the point of no head first slide is safety, I have a hard time reading people justify “flying” through the air head first as legal bc it isn’t a slide on the ground.

True, but there's something in between.

Going from upright, to prone, without a slide/leap/flight.

This kid more falls to the plate than dives/slides.  Yes, his head is between the plate and his feet...if that makes it a head first slide, so be it, but I think there's more to it than that.

To me, the kid goes from two feet outside the chalk to two feet inside - this looks like outside the base path to me.

However - What's the LL rule for OBS - catcher was in the runner's way before ball arrived...With R2 about 20 feet from home plate the catcher moves into his path, and doesn't yet have the ball, and R2 is reacting to it by slowing down.  This looks like OBS to me.  

I know LL mostly follows OBR, but it would surprise me, with all the other safety protocols in LL, that they would maintain the "in the act of receiving the ball" exception.

[JonnyCat]

1 hour ago, beerguy55 said:

I know LL mostly follows OBR, but it would surprise me, with all the other safety protocols in LL, that they would maintain the "in the act of receiving the ball" exception.

LL does not have the "in the act of fielding the ball" provision in their definition of obstruction.

[Velho]

So many things going.

Hey, what's on the grassy knoll at 5:16 of the video?

[beerguy55]

All right...I'm sticking with OBS...out of path and head first slide are moot.