SeeingEyeDog Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I was under the lights tonight, 2-man crew, for a 15U travel fall league game. This was not a tournament or prospect showcase game. We're in COVID mechanics. I was U1 moving between B and C calling balls and strikes and my partner was PU moving between 3BX and 1BX depending on the hitter. The VT starting pitcher was in his third inning, when a woman (presumably his mother) took up a place behind the plate in the stands and proceeded to take flash photography. Her flash was right over F2's head and she was releasing the shutter anywhere from when he was in the set position to the ball on the way. I conferred with my partner and we decided to let it go. F1 was pulled after that inning and "Annie Leibovitz" retired to the darkroom. FWIW, I don't know what kind of equipment she was using but unless she had klieg lights out there, even a professional grade flash gives you maybe 12 - 15 feet of light from the lens. She was getting no benefit from that flash. Were this a game of more importance or had it continued beyond that inning I would have addressed it. My question to all of you is...how best to do so? Directly to the spectator? Her team's coach? What tone or posture do you take here? Is this a Wyatt Earp "Tombstone" situation where you say, "Now ma'am, I'm not saying you can't sit there and I'm not saying you can't take flash photography...all I'm saying is, you can't sit there AND take flash photography."? Unfortunately, I had no read on her as far as what approach may have worked best. Finally, does this situation change at all under normal, non-COVID, 2-man mechanics? ~Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Did any of the players say anything? Was anything affected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeingEyeDog Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 No. No players or coaches said anything about it. I, personally, found it somewhat distracting...a nuisance. ~Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlue Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 My safety concern is the flash distracting the pitcher and him losing just enough control of that pitch such that B1 gets hit by the pitch. "Ma'am, for the safety of the players would you please turn off the flash? Thank you." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maven Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 You already answered my question, unless they were playing a day game under the lights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Ives Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 11 hours ago, SeeingEyeDog said: even a professional grade flash gives you maybe 12 - 15 feet of light from the lens. She was getting no benefit from that flash. ~Dog Flash was really common in the film days. Players didn't get distracted. Media pros had semi-permanent setups at indoor arenas to shoot sports. Most cameras these day do an auto flash. You have to turn it off. (if you know how) Flash distance varies by ISO and flash angle settings. My small external flash is good up to 60 feet. The old handle flashes could be good up to 200 feet (I had a Honeywell Strobonar). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchAngel72 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 My teachings have told me go to the coach and let them handle their spectators. If you know its the pitchers mom ask that teams coach to deal with it. If it was effecting you it maybe effecting other players and they just deal with it cause she is the team mom or something, still doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfe_man Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Was it a day game or night game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchAngel72 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, wolfe_man said: Was it a day game or night game? 13 hours ago, SeeingEyeDog said: I was under the lights tonight ~Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeingEyeDog Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 The game was played at night. The lights surrounding the field were on. If the lights were not on, we would have been in total darkness... ~Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfe_man Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, SeeingEyeDog said: The game was played at night. The lights surrounding the field were on. If the lights were not on, we would have been in total darkness... ~Dog Sorry guys. It's an old joke around here. The irony is it might make a difference in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeingEyeDog Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 @Thunderheads, please lock or delete this thread. I'm done here... ~Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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