Obstruction questions

[Jakeump]

1) R2, caught fly ball and R2 is attempting to retouch second base but is obstructed while going back. He a) would've made it back without obstruction and b) wouldn't have made it back. Are they awarded 3B regardless? 

2) I can't find anything in the rules about this. If a runner is obstructed (type 2), what actions can they do that would override obstruction? ie interference

[The Man in Blue]

What rule set?  I’m guessing “not Fed” since you mentioned Type 2.  (Unless the runner is a diabetic ...)

[Jakeump]

OBR, sorry for not mentioning

[Rich Ives]

4 hours ago, JakeUmp said:

1) R2, caught fly ball and R2 is attempting to retouch second base but is obstructed while going back. He a) would've made it back without obstruction and b) wouldn't have made it back. Are they awarded 3B regardless? 

2) I can't find anything in the rules about this. If a runner is obstructed (type 2), what actions can they do that would override obstruction? ie interference

1) If there is a throw coming to 2B in an attempt get a re-tag out then it is type 1 and the runner gets 3B.  If there is no play on the runner then it is type 2 the umpire makes whatever award he feel will nullify the obstruction. 

2) It wouldn't override obstruction, but as it its type 2 the umpire will take all subsequent action into account. Not sure where you would get interference. Perhaps you could describe a situation.

[Jakeump]

23 minutes ago, Rich Ives said:

1) If there is a throw coming to 2B in an attempt get a re-tag out then it is type 1 and the runner gets 3B.  If there is no play on the runner then it is type 2 the umpire makes whatever award he feel will nullify the obstruction. 

2) It wouldn't override obstruction, but as it its type 2 the umpire will take all subsequent action into account. Not sure where you would get interference. Perhaps you could describe a situation.

Sure. R2, double to the outfield. R2 obstructed around third base and then trucks the catcher standing with the ball at home. 

 

Also, can the defense still appeal the missed tag up if you award them 3B and they never tag up? 

[Rich Ives]

1 minute ago, JakeUmp said:

Sure. R2, double to the outfield. R2 obstructed around third base and then trucks the catcher standing with the ball at home. 

That's not interference.It's a contact rule violation and he's out for that.

[Jakeump]

3 minutes ago, Rich Ives said:

That's not interference.It's a contact rule violation and he's out for that.

Ah, I see. What happens if he trucks another fielder, that is not the catcher? Out + EJ? 

[LRZ]

Let's refer to the actual rule for the answer to your first question: 6.01(h)(1) [this is type 1] and (2) [this is type 2].

In part, (1) states, "The obstructed runner shall be awarded at least one base beyond the base he had last legally touched before the obstruction." (2) states, "If no play is being made on the obstructed runner, the play shall proceed until no further action is possible. The umpire shall then call “Time” and impose such penalties, if any, as in his judgment will nullify the act of obstruction."

[noumpere]

7 hours ago, JakeUmp said:

Also, can the defense still appeal the missed tag up if you award them 3B and they never tag up? 

Yes.  What's awarded is the right to advance without being played on.  The runner must still advance legally.  It's why on a home run, the batter touches all the bases and just doesn't head to the dugout.

[Rich Ives]

On 3/7/2020 at 12:26 AM, JakeUmp said:

Ah, I see. What happens if he trucks another fielder, that is not the catcher? Out + EJ? 

Not gonna happen