Batter intentionally kicks the pitch!

[Double Up]

Doing a 10u Pony game last night and a batter intentionally, kicked his foot into the ball  that crossed low and inside. 

I could have very easily ruled dead ball strike, but IMO the pitch was a ball.    I called the ball  dead, and the pitch a ball w/o awarding 1B to the BR.  

The kid  must have been warming up for some hacky-sack with his teammates, because that exactly how it appeared.  He tried to catch the pitch mid air with his foot.

 

Did I miss anything other than an oppty to call this kid out on the dead ball strike (that was really a Ball, inside)? 

  

 

[maven]

10 minutes ago, Double Up said:

I could have very easily ruled dead ball strike, but IMO the pitch was a ball.

Why would it be a dead ball strike? Did he swing?

10 minutes ago, Double Up said:

I called the ball  dead, and the pitch a ball w/o awarding 1B to the BR. 

That's what I would have done: the batter clearly permitted the pitch to hit him (FED) and made no attempt to avoid the pitch (OBR).

The ball is dead whenever a pitch hits a batter, even if the contact is intentional (by pitcher or batter).

But it's not a strike unless it's in the zone or he swings.

[Double Up]

1 minute ago, maven said:

Why would it be a dead ball strike? Did he swing?

That's what I would have done: the batter clearly permitted the pitch to hit him (FED) and made no attempt to avoid the pitch (OBR).

The ball is dead whenever a pitch hits a batter, even if the contact is intentional (by pitcher or batter).

But it's not a strike unless it's in the zone or he swings.

No swing,  just a near miss... low and inside.  Pretty close to being in the zone.

 

Dead Ball "Ball" was the call!   Chalk up one for the good guys who don't always get them right. Appreciate the guidance and clarification of the application of the rules.

Just another anomaly of the youth games.

[KenBAZ]

"Time!, ...Ball!, ..Stay Here!"

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[maven]

10 minutes ago, Double Up said:

No swing,  just a near miss... low and inside.  Pretty close to being in the zone.

OK, got it. I was picturing something down by his feet, not something just barely down and in.

When players do something stupid, that sometimes shifts the benefit of the doubt. That pitch might have looked MUCH better to me than it actually was, so that it got called a strike!

Hey, you want a better call, don't kick the pitch! 

[Double Up]

7 minutes ago, maven said:

 

Hey, you want a better call, don't kick the pitch! 

Exactly! 

[stevis]

21 minutes ago, maven said:

OK, got it. I was picturing something down by his feet, not something just barely down and in.

When players do something stupid, that sometimes shifts the benefit of the doubt. That pitch might have looked MUCH better to me than it actually was, so that it got called a strike!

Hey, you want a better call, don't kick the pitch! 

"You kicked the pitch; don't complain that I kicked the call."

[Rich Ives]

2 hours ago, maven said:

OK, got it. I was picturing something down by his feet, not something just barely down and in.

When players do something stupid, that sometimes shifts the benefit of the doubt. That pitch might have looked MUCH better to me than it actually was, so that it got called a strike!

Hey, you want a better call, don't kick the pitch! 

10U game. Take that into consideration

[Lou B]

Any runners on base?

[maven]

Day game or night?

[Lou B]

OK, I'll bite, how does day game or night matter?

[Aging_Arbiter]

10 hours ago, Lou B said:

OK, I'll bite, how does day game or night matter?

exactly

[noumpere]

11 hours ago, Lou B said:

OK, I'll bite, how does day game or night matter?

1) TV ratings

2) What's more likely to sell at the concession stand

3) Sunglasses endorsement fees

4) Whether mom needs to pack the sunscreen or the firefly catching jars

5) Post-game snack differences

[ArchAngel72]

13 hours ago, maven said:

Day game or night?

Full moon or No moon?

[Biscuit]

1 hour ago, ArchAngel72 said:

Full moon or No moon?

Hopefully full. It's a beautiful planet!

[Double Up]

23 hours ago, Lou B said:

Any runners on base?

can't recall..   that was two "nights" ago

[The Man in Blue]

Who.

[Thunderheads]

I believe this has been answered and I'm shutting it down before it goes off the rails .....  more than it's already heading