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For Little League play, in what circumstances would the "home" team get to switch to the "visiting" team going in to the last inning?  The term "flip flopping" was used and we have been unable to locate any information on the parameters for this situation.

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5 hours ago, Guest JenD said:

For Little League play, in what circumstances would the "home" team get to switch to the "visiting" team going in to the last inning?  The term "flip flopping" was used and we have been unable to locate any information on the parameters for this situation.

It would be some local-league rule -- it's not in any official rule book (that I am aware of).

 

I have often thought it would be a good idea, though -- when a (edited to be more generic and because I had the wrong team for the specific scenario mentioned) team was up by "a lot" (yes, I recognize the rule itself couldn't be written that loosely) but not enough for any mercy rule.

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Haven’t been able to find anything for Little League but here’s the USSSA Slow Pitch Softball rule and a link--

F. Flip/Flop Rule—All Programs: In the inning when the run rule for that particular program is exceeded and the home team is losing, the home team will remain at bat and become the visiting team. If the team (new visiting team) does not score enough runs to reduce the run difference below the run rule, the game is over. If they reduce the run difference to below the run rule then the new home team will bat. If they subsequently score enough runs to exceed the run rule, the game will be over; if they do not, the game will continue under that format. If the situation reverses, the teams would flip/flop again.

https://usssa.com/docs/2018/2018_SP_RuleBook.pdf

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There is no Flip-Flop Rule in Little League Baseball or Softball. 

A local league could not use such a rule without a Waiver from Williamsport which it will not get!

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22 hours ago, Guest JenD said:

For Little League play, in what circumstances would the "home" team get to switch to the "visiting" team going in to the last inning?  The term "flip flopping" was used and we have been unable to locate any information on the parameters for this situation.

It's a time saver in some rec leagues, and especially the round robin side of tournaments, to prevent a visiting team from prolonging an inevitable victory.   Imagine a 15 run rule after three innings, and after the bottom of the second the visiting team is already up 23-0...and now gets to bat again...and then the HT has to bat yet again.   To prevent another 45 minute inning where the VT puts up 12 more runs, you see if HT can put across at least 9 runs first.

As well, in most leagues and tournaments, the full run differential is academic for league/round robin standings.  Most of the time when you win by run rule you are credited with a +7, and no more.   And, most of the time, the second tie breaker is runs against, not runs for, so there's no reason/incentive for a team to keep running up their score.

Put those three rules together and you can minimize the round robin games that get out of hand for no reason but to pad individual stats.   It ensures round robin games don't go on longer than necessary (remember, most of the tournament staff are volunteers) and it ensures the Sunday gold medal game ends at a reasonable time so the volunteers can go home, and the out of town teams can be on the road.

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