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Looking for a used but in good shape F3 Hockey Style mask. Just don't have the money at the moment for a new one. The Wilson Shox that I am currently using needs new pads but I would spend half of a new mask to replace them most likely. Plus the headache of replacing them! Help a brother out!

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