Does the run score?

[Guest Jeff Wilderotter]

A tie game, bottom of extra innings, runner on 3rd 2 outs,  ground ball to 3rd, 3rd baseman attempts a play at home plate, runner is safe. Batter does not reach first base, catcher throws to first and forced out the runner. Does the run score because the first play was attempted at home. Or is the 3rd out end the inning

[Larry in TN]

The batter-runner is not forced-out at first base though a BR being put out before reaching 1B is treated similarly to a force-out in that no run can score if that was the third out.

Rule 5.08 (new system) 4.09 (old system)

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EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

 

[Rich Ives]

How many laps does F5 run for throwing home?

[BT_Blue]

On 11/5/2016 at 8:49 PM, Rich Ives said:

How many laps does F5 run for throwing home?

How many laps does the BR run for doing what ever he was doing? 

[Rich Ives]

9 hours ago, BT_Blue said:

How many laps does the BR run for doing what ever he was doing? 

5-2-3 DP is not uncommon.

[Rich Ives]

Just trying to demonstrate that there is time  to go 5-2-3 and get the batter-runner without the runner being at fault.

[isired]

Yeah it all depends if the catcher caught the ball and made the throw or if he tried to make a tag first, and how quickly that happened. But if we're talking about 11-12s on 60 ft bases, not good for BR...

[BT_Blue]

6 hours ago, isired said:

Yeah it all depends if the catcher caught the ball and made the throw or if he tried to make a tag first, and how quickly that happened. But if we're talking about 11-12s on 60 ft bases, not good for BR...

Even on 70 foot bases... Not good.

[VolUmp]

On 11/5/2016 at 3:33 PM, Larry in TN said:

The batter-runner is not forced-out at first base though a BR being put out before reaching 1B is treated similarly to a force-out in that no run can score if that was the third out.

Technically and semantically correct.  Annoying when trying to explain this to a newbie.

ALL of the rules of a force out are identical to a put out on a batter-runner at 1B.

[BT_Blue]

3 minutes ago, Rich Ives said:

5-2-3 DP is not uncommon.

Not normally if it is a tag play.

[ALStripes17]

5-2-3 DP is not uncommon.

Pretty rare with 2 outs at the beginning of the play...

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