Safe upon review

[Thunderheads]

On a bases loaded grounder back to F1 ..... he flips to F2 for the apparent force at home ..... not so fast!

The downside of replay (or upside) ...it can see just about anything.  I think Mark Ripperger, from his angle had the out, as we probably all would have called it .....

This is the stuff you see now, thanks to replay

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/63817564/v1132049483/?query=umpire

[JaxRolo]

From his angle it had to look like an out. I guess that's why the human factor got taken out.

[Stk004]

Did Ripperger not go 3BLX so that he could still watch for a pulled foot at 1B?

[JaxRolo]

Did Ripperger not go 3BLX so that he could still watch for a pulled foot at 1B?

Maybe he just didn't have time?

[scrounge]

I have absolutely no problem with replay getting this. In fact, I'd say this is precisely what replay is there for, the non-obvious but correct call where it's perfectly understandable that it's missed on the field. But it's the right call. Dude didn't execute the force. Do better next next time.

[Kevin_K]

I believe that the thinking on plays at the plate is now to stay at POP, and then rotate as necessary as dictated by the positioning of F2. It goes hand in hand with the wedge philosophy.

[Ump29]

Can not see where the home plate ump could call this an out as even the first look at normal speed from behind the plate showed the catcher's foot not on the plate.

[MadMax]

1 hour ago, Ump29 said:

Can not see where the home plate ump could call this an out as even the first look at normal speed from behind the plate showed the catcher's foot not on the plate.

Yes, but we're looking at the pulled foot, now, in review, from a third-person perspective, knowing that the pulled foot is the reason why R3 was actually safe.

Ripperger had a chopped come-backer to F1, with bases loaded. What's the order of ruling? Fair/Foul. Next is Catch/No-Catch, and Rip is not only watching F1 field it, but also watching the toss into F2's glove because it's going to be soft toss and the HP dirt circle is a loud area. He has to then rule Safe/Out. He also has to keep peripheral vision on R3, and, furthermore, he has to anticipate the next play with a throw to 1B and possible RLI.

All this is happening at Major League game speed... which is decidedly _not_ normal speed. Rip's brain was likely left with the same question many of us would at that level of play... Surely a Major Leaguer would have contacted the plate, right? A play he has executed hundreds of times? F3's called for pulled foot (in MLB) usually are caught trying to find it at the last instant to the BR's arrival. You nearly never see a professional F3 set up not-in-contact with 1B. 

 

[Ump29]

13 hours ago, MadMax said:

Yes, but we're looking at the pulled foot, now, in review, from a third-person perspective, knowing that the pulled foot is the reason why R3 was actually safe.

Ripperger had a chopped come-backer to F1, with bases loaded. What's the order of ruling? Fair/Foul. Next is Catch/No-Catch, and Rip is not only watching F1 field it, but also watching the toss into F2's glove because it's going to be soft toss and the HP dirt circle is a loud area. He has to then rule Safe/Out. He also has to keep peripheral vision on R3, and, furthermore, he has to anticipate the next play with a throw to 1B and possible RLI.

All this is happening at Major League game speed... which is decidedly _not_ normal speed. Rip's brain was likely left with the same question many of us would at that level of play... Surely a Major Leaguer would have contacted the plate, right? A play he has executed hundreds of times? F3's called for pulled foot (in MLB) usually are caught trying to find it at the last instant to the BR's arrival. You nearly never see a professional F3 set up not-in-contact with 1B. 

 

All true but just stating my opinion on the video. I assumed the call was out as I did not have the sound turned up on first view and did not see a call by PU before view shifted away.

[Richvee]

On 09/08/2016 at 8:52 PM, Kevin_K said:

I believe that the thinking on plays at the plate is now to stay at POP, and then rotate as necessary as dictated by the positioning of F2. It goes hand in hand with the wedge philosophy.

Something I was taught at a clinic about positioning on such a play.....

Get a step or two 3BLX to get a good look at the ball entering F2's glove. Don't let F2's body get between you and his glove. We need to see the catch/transfer first and foremost. After that, we can take a step and a lean towards the line to get a look up the 1BL for RLV.