Shinguard Pine Tar - Salvador Perez

[Thunderheads]

This is being discussed on a Facebook umpire forum ......

http://nypost.com/2015/10/28/royals-catchers-mystery-shinguard-substance-raises-questions/

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13995085/2015-world-series-terry-collins-ned-yost-defend-kansas-city-royals-catcher-salvador-perez-use-pine-tar-shin-guard

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/substance-on-royals-c-salvador-perez-s-shinguard-is-legal-1.11023749

[JaxRolo]

Yeah. They all cheat.

[Mizzou2016]

Yeah. They all cheat.

Is this cheating?

[Thunderheads]

Is this cheating?

FISH ON!

[Richvee]

Managers, in general, , don't want to even think about calling out other teams on this. So many pitchers are are using pine tar, or whatever, to get a better grip on the ball, especially in cooler weather. Add to the fact, if you ask hitters, I'd bet a good percentage of them would be rather have pitchers get a grip on a slick ball that's coming at them at 100 MPH.

edited to add.....I should have read Collin's comments first

Edited October 30, 2015 by Richvee

[Dbellyflop]

Catchers on almost every pitch, rub the ground then rub the dirt off on their leg.......

[JaxRolo]

Is this cheating?

Of course it is.

[Mizzou2016]

Of course it is.

Rule? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

[JaxRolo]

Rule? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

Defacing the ball. Adding a foreign substance.

[Mizzou2016]

Defacing the ball. Adding a foreign substance.

Oh come on you know better than that. That rule is under pitching regulations.

[JaxRolo]

Oh come on you know better than that. That rule is under pitching regulations.

Isn't the pitcher going to pitch that same ball?

[Thunderheads]

FISH ON!!!!!!

[Mizzou2016]

 

 

Isn't the pitcher going to pitch that same ball?

 

So what? It's not like he's smothering pine tar all over it.

@thunderheads I don't think this is what you mean http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fish+On! But I honestly have no idea Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

Edited October 30, 2015 by StevenCraze

[Thunderheads]

So what? It's not like he's smothering pine tar all over it.

@thunderheads I don't think this is what you mean

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fish+On!

But I honestly have no idea Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

no ........

meaning ........"you're falling for @JaxRolo 's post ..."hook line and sinker" ....  fish on meaning ........he's reeling you in...... he's caught you.......   

he's doing this purposely to draw conversation/arguing .... he can be like that, but we still love him.....I think! LOL   

[JaxRolo]

no ........

meaning ........"you're falling for @JaxRolo 's post ..."hook line and sinker" ....  fish on meaning ........he's reeling you in...... he's caught you.......   

he's doing this purposely to draw conversation/arguing .... he can be like that, but we still love him.....I think! LOL   

You're ruining my fun!

[gnhbua93]

After this thread, Salvador will ask Rawlings to redesign the shin guards for next season. I wonder how much Rawlings paid him to leave All-Star.

[Thunderheads]

After this thread, Salvador will ask Rawlings to redesign the shin guards for next season. I wonder how much Rawlings paid him to leave All-Star.

Enough for him to leave All-Star .... which is FAR BETTER EQUIPMENT....so it was enough!   Brad at All-Star confirmed "Salvi went for the money:

[Rich Ives]

Catchers on almost every pitch, rub the ground then rub the dirt off on their leg.......

Not in MLB

[Rich Ives]

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3.02 No player shall intentionally discolor or damage the ball by rubbing it with soil,
rosin, paraffin, licorice, sand-paper, emery-paper or other foreign substance.

[Mizzou2016]

3.02 No player shall intentionally discolor or damage the ball by rubbing it with soil,
rosin, paraffin, licorice, sand-paper, emery-paper or other foreign substance.

He's not discoloring the ball, or rubbing it. He's putting it on his fingers.

[Rich Ives]

He's not discoloring the ball, or rubbing it. He's putting it on his fingers.

Are you that naive? 

[Mizzou2016]

On 10/30/2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Ives said:

 

Are you that naive? 

Lol

You've never had a Catcher overthrow 2nd because he couldn't get a grip on the ball in cold weather? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

[Thunderheads]

Are you that naive? 

tact Rich .... tact

there's a similar argument going on over on facebook ..... articles have been posted with Bruce Froemming being quoted as "it's legal" ....etc ........

[JaxRolo]

 

Rule? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

3.02 No player shall intentionally discolor or damage the ball by rubbing it with soil,
rosin, paraffin, licorice, sand-paper, emery-paper or other foreign substance.

 

Thanks Rich Ives

[Dbellyflop]

Not in MLB

i watch a lot of Giants games and almost every pitch Posey gives the sign then reaches down, rubs his hand in the dirt, then wipes it off on his leg. And i have seen many other

catchers in the MLB do the same.

haven't been able to watch many Royals games to see if Perez is doing this.

just may be some of what the coloring on his shin guard is.