Votto loses it

[Richvee]

Anyone want to speculate on what cause Votto to flip his wig?

 

[Gfoley4]

He was mad that time wasn't granted

[heyoh]

I thought he was saying "do his job" instead of "ask for time" maybe something along the lines of "can't do his job"

[ricka56]

Anyone want to speculate on what cause Votto to flip his wig?

He got pissy when PU said, 
Why don't you knock it off with those negative waves. Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here. Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change.

[Rulekeep]

As usual, the MLB2NITE announcers were complete dicks about it... "you're the home plate umpire-what are you thinking after calling that a strike? You're thinking 'I messed up' and you're terrified!" 

Three people who have obviously never even talked to an umpire...I personally would have been thinking "go away, brat. You're already ejected." 

My .02...

[stkjock]

From ESPN

 

CINCINNATI -- Cincinnati Reds first baseman Joey Votto was ejected after launching into a tirade after being denied a timeout, with teammates and even an umpire needing to hold him back Wednesday night in Cincinnati's 5-4 loss to the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Already having struck out twice, Votto had a 1-1 count with runners on first and second and one out in the eighth when he took a called second strike. He exchanged words with plate umpire Bill Welke, looked as if he was appealing to his dugout and was tossed. Votto slammed down his batting helmet, hollering and gesturing as he went nose-to-nose with Welke.

"My understanding is that Joey asked for time, and Welke didn't grant it," Reds manager Bryan Price said. "That's what got it started.

"When Joey looked over, that, to me, was my sign to get out there and make sure I had an understanding of what was going on in that situation. By the time I got there, Joey had been ejected," Price said. "At that point in time, I did not know, but by the time I got isolated with Bill at home plate, we did both come to the conclusion that Joey had asked for timeout, and Bill didn't feel like he was going to give him timeout for whatever -- due to whatever history had happened.

"So our argument is, of course, a guy asks for timeout, you give him timeout, and then you give him a certain period of time out of the box, and then you insist he gets back in the box or you put the ball in play. Those are some of the options." 

The dispute quickly escalated, and Reds teammates intervened to restrain Votto, with first-base umpire Laz Diaz helping to prevent him from reaching Welke. Price also was ejected.

"You can argue about how you act when you're upset," Price said. "Joey was upset. Bill was upset. I was upset. There were a lot of upset people out there."

Votto had left the clubhouse when reporters arrived after the game. Welke declined to comment.

Votto was ejected after the Reds had scored once in the eighth to cut the Pirates' lead to 5-3. Ramon Cabrera batted for Votto and singled for his first major league hit.

The ejection was Votto's third this season. He also was ejected on May 6 in Pittsburgh and served a one-game suspension for bumping umpire Chris Conroy. Price was ejected for the third time also, including one before the start of a game in Cleveland on May 23.

Jung Ho Kang hit Pittsburgh's first grand slam of the season, a tiebreaking shot in the sixth inning that gave the Pirates a 5-1 lead. The Pirates hold the top spot in the NL wild-card race.

[Thunderheads]

Votto needs meds .......end of story

BUT ....Laz Diaz did a hell of a job with him!

Edited September 10, 2015 by Thunderheads

[maven]

The way that's clipped together, it's impossible to tell what happened.

Players request time. Umpires grant time under some circumstances. Life is different and more complicated in pro ball.

Overpaid whiney-pants on crap teams lose their tempers.

Nothing new under the sun.

[Maineac]

Not sure what caused him to flip his wig, but it's pretty clear to me he needs a lengthy, err, vacation after contacting two umpires.

[MObetterBlue]

He flipped his wig because he's a douche.

[Richvee]

Votto needs meds .......end of story

BUT ....Laz Diaz did a hell of a job with him!

Maybe he's on some "meds"......AKA roid rage?? ....Just sayin'....If it quacks like a duck......

Those are some outrageous 2nd half numbers you're putting up there, Mr. Votto. Would you mind peeing in this cup, please. 

[JaxRolo]

Votto needs therapy

[stkjock]

No so much for the commentary by the MLB guys, but at the 1:10 mark, Votto appears to ask for time, politely it appears and it's not granted.  

 

Anyone want to speculate on why it would not have been granted?

 

[Thunderheads]

No so much for the commentary by the MLB guys, but at the 1:10 mark, Votto appears to ask for time, politely it appears and it's not granted.  

 

Anyone want to speculate on why it would not have been granted?

 

Well ....first ...... there was no reason to call time because the play was very relaxed and in between pitches ....that's my assumption.... Welke said .... you're fine or something.

Now ...when he yells to the dugout, ....he's not saying what these videos are saying (see my attached vid from MLB Tonight) ....he said something worth tossing....he didn't say "What, I can't ask for time?"   He probably said something like .... "Hey, I'm asking for time and Bill's being an asshole about it" ....something like that ....(my .02)

[stkjock]

Standing there looking at the ground, shaking your head over and over, not a good way to in dear yourself to the umpire

 

Let me say I think once he turned to the dugout, Votto used the rope Welke gave him..... what he says to the dugout is really unknown

[Man_In_Black]

I'm not so sure that if Welke had granted Votto time when he asked for it, the ultimate outcome would have been any different. The next borderline pitch probably would have set him off anyway. Like stkjock said, his actions before the ejection were tantamount to showing Welke up in front of everyone. I know MLB players are competitive and all, but Joey's been around the game long enough to know that you can't behave that way. No excuse for his pre- and post-ejection antics. He knows better.

[RichMSN]

I'm not so sure that if Welke had granted Votto time when he asked for it, the ultimate outcome would have been any different. The next borderline pitch probably would have set him off anyway. Like stkjock said, his actions before the ejection were tantamount to showing Welke up in front of everyone. I know MLB players are competitive and all, but Joey's been around the game long enough to know that you can't behave that way. No excuse for his pre- and post-ejection antics. He knows better.

Exactly.  One of the MLB announcers said something similar -- that the player looking down and trying to appear that he's not talking to Welke -- he may as well have turned and openly argued cause everyone knows what he was doing.  When he did it for 3 out of 4 at bats, it wasn't going to take much to get ejected.  

And Welke was still pretty patient with Votto -- the gesture he made to the dugout would've gotten him ejected from games at pretty much any level.

[Lindsay]

Punishment is in: 2 Game suspension, pending Votto's appeal.

[Thunderheads]

[Richvee]

All well and good, except he neglected to tell us what he barked back at his dugout that got him ejected, and never mentions that his actions after the EJ were out of control and he needs to control himself better.