2 Occupying Same Base ?

[BuckeyeMike]

Had this the other night:

 

R2, R3, 1 Out.

 

R3 gets in a rundown between 3B/Home.  R2 goes ahead and advances to 3B and is standing on the bag.

They get the out on the rundown, but during post-game discussion, my partner states that had they thrown to 3B and tagged R2 standing on the bag while R3 was in the rundown....THAT would have been an out.

 

Is this correct?    I know 2 runners can't occupy the same base, but I thought that only applied to 2 runners physically touching said base.

[grayhawk]

Had this the other night:

 

R2, R3, 1 Out.

 

R3

 

Feel free to add any details that might help us comment on the play.  

[BuckeyeMike]

I was having huge problems posting the entire situation, so I had to piece-meal it.    LOL.

[Magic]

Had this the other night:

R2, R3, 1 Out.

R3 gets in a rundown between 3B/Home. R2 goes ahead and advances to 3B and is standing on the bag.

They get the out on the rundown, but during post-game discussion, my partner states that had they thrown to 3B and tagged R2 standing on the bag while R3 was in the rundown....THAT would have been an out.

Is this correct? I know 2 runners can't occupy the same base, but I thought that only applied to 2 runners physically touching said base.

That is incorrect.

[JaxRolo]

Had this the other night:

 

R2, R3, 1 Out.

 

R3 gets in a rundown between 3B/Home.  R2 goes ahead and advances to 3B and is standing on the bag.

They get the out on the rundown, but during post-game discussion, my partner states that had they thrown to 3B and tagged R2 standing on the bag while R3 was in the rundown....THAT would have been an out.

 

Is this correct?    I know 2 runners can't occupy the same base, but I thought that only applied to 2 runners physically touching said base.

Not correct!

[Jocko]

No. Even though he has legally acquired 3B, he must vacate if original R3 should reclaim rights to the bag. But, with only one runner on a base, they are never out if tagged (save for some weird appeal type issue. Not the op.)

[grayhawk]

Had this the other night:

 

R2, R3, 1 Out.

 

R3 gets in a rundown between 3B/Home.  R2 goes ahead and advances to 3B and is standing on the bag.

They get the out on the rundown, but during post-game discussion, my partner states that had they thrown to 3B and tagged R2 standing on the bag while R3 was in the rundown....THAT would have been an out.

 

Is this correct?    I know 2 runners can't occupy the same base, but I thought that only applied to 2 runners physically touching said base.

 

At a minimum, your partner's statement deserves Sheldon's look of haughty derision:

 

[BuckeyeMike]

Is it the same in NFHS, NCAA and OBR rule-sets ?    This guy does college ball and claims he's called this before, and that it was confirmed to be correct.  I still couldn't believe it.

[grayhawk]

Think of this play:

R2 and R3 with no outs. Batter hits a high pop up to short left field. Both runners go half way not knowing if it will be caught or not. The ball drops and both runners advance, but R3 stumbles. R2 slides in just before the tag at third but he's tagged while in contact with third before R3 can touch home. Under your partner's scenario, R2 should be called out.

Umm, hellll no!

[basejester]

There's an extremely long and silly thread on this exact topic, which you could read if you're so inclined.

 

Cliff notes:

Rules lawyering aside, of course he's not out, as everyone who's ever watched a baseball game knows.

[JaxRolo]

Is it the same in NFHS, NCAA and OBR rule-sets ? This guy does college ball and claims he's called this before, and that it was confirmed to be correct. I still couldn't believe it.

It is the same all around the world!

Even at the T-ball level where @Jock works/babysits

[BuckeyeMike]

Holy crap, I read all 11 pages of that miserable thread.  

 

You gotta love how they word it in NCAA rule 8-1.c.   That's about as cut and dry as it gets.

[Pete Peterson Sr]

There's an extremely long and silly thread on this exact topic, which you could read if you're so inclined.

 

Cliff notes:

Rules lawyering aside, of course he's not out, as everyone who's ever watched a baseball game knows.

Everyone EXCEPT OP's partner...

[Mr Umpire]

No. Even though he has legally acquired 3B, he must vacate if original R3 should reclaim rights to the bag. But, with only one runner on a base, they are never out if tagged (save for some weird appeal type issue. Not the op.)

This statement is not 100% true.  A runner is out on a tag while on the base if forced to vacate the base by virtue of the batter becoming a runner. 

[Jocko]

No. Even though he has legally acquired 3B, he must vacate if original R3 should reclaim rights to the bag. But, with only one runner on a base, they are never out if tagged (save for some weird appeal type issue. Not the op.)

This statement is not 100% true.  A runner is out on a tag while on the base if forced to vacate the base by virtue of the batter becoming a runner.

off topic but true. But that's not the op and not to what I was referring