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Has anyone else seen this story?

since 105 people have recommended it on myFace as of right now, Id say the answer to your question is "yes".

 

Given the specific nature of my response, I expect a "answered correctly" icon to be put here soon.

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Just some of the ways people view umpires and how everyone wants to tell us how to do our job or stick their noses in it with no idea how much time and effort we actually put in to our craft. Like we're a bunch of crackpots who have no idea whats going on. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

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Just some of the ways people view umpires and how everyone wants to tell us how to do our job or stick their noses in it with no idea how much time and effort we actually put in to our craft. Like we're a bunch of crackpots who have no idea whats going on. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

I think it's more of the way you read it .........

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Just some of the ways people view umpires and how everyone wants to tell us how to do our job or stick their noses in it with no idea how much time and effort we actually put in to our craft. Like we're a bunch of crackpots who have no idea whats going on. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

I think it's more of the way you read it .........

 

you're probably right, but rubbed the wrong way none the less. I'll go back to my corner now  :wave:

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what got your blood boiling about it?

Ex-players?   :wow:

 

Stark doesn't have his head up the players a$$es far enough already?  Now he's trying to give them jobs?  

 

Players know less about the rules than anyone.  Take Mark Gubicza.... please.  

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Just some of the ways people view umpires and how everyone wants to tell us how to do our job or stick their noses in it with no idea how much time and effort we actually put in to our craft. Like we're a bunch of crackpots who have no idea whats going on. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

I think it's more of the way you read it .........

 

you're probably right, but rubbed the wrong way none the less. I'll go back to my corner now  :wave:

 

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If ex players want to follow the path that is place, go for it. If they want to try to move guys along faster then they could to it with the present crop. A good portion of the staff at the new school are really good umpires released because of no openings.

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I'm going to commit a tiny act of blasphemy, but..

 

Other than the ex-player thing (and many umps ARE ex-players, just not ex-professional players), there are some nuggets of things that I don't have a massive problem with in that list.

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Here's the important part that is missing from that article.  Umpires CARE about getting all the calls correct.  They don't just say "c'est la vie" when they get one wrong.  That article gives the impression (because it is written from a player's perspective), that umpires don't give 100%, don't work their asses off, and need some sort of incentive program to try harder.  That's WAY off the mark.

 

Also, on one hand, the players, coaches, fans, media, MLB want umpires to basically be invisible, but when a call gets missed, now all of the sudden they want them to be the center of attention.  They're in the shadows as long as they get everything right, but are public figures (like the players) when they kick one.  Last I checked, players have their names on their jerseys, but umpires don't.  Players can get endorsements, but umpires can't.  Make up your friggin minds!

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I'm going to commit a tiny act of blasphemy, but..

 

Other than the ex-player thing (and many umps ARE ex-players, just not ex-professional players), there are some nuggets of things that I don't have a massive problem with in that list.

I agree.

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That article gives the impression (because it is written from a player's perspective), that umpires don't give 100%, don't work their asses off, and need some sort of incentive program to try harder.  That's WAY off the mark.

 

 

To me. this shows that the article writer does not have a grasp on how the system works.  Its not like these guys wake up on Opening Day and say, "ok vacation is over it is time to go back to work..." 

 

And incentive program...  Don't the guys work all season long to get the call for the playoffs?  If you get selected for the playoffs, your salary increases.  Appears to me they already have an incentive program in place.

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http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9278742/eight-ways-improve-umpiring-mlb

 

I just finished reading this. I don't know about anyone else, but it got my blood boiling a little bit.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

I this what bothered you?

 

 

 

But if you've actually been paying attention for the past decade or six, you'd know the truth: Most umpires are actually better at their jobs than any of us are at our jobs.

 

 

 

C'mon.  This is far more thoughtful and aware than most of what gets onto that interweb thing that Gore invented.

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I have no problem with 90% of the article.  Replay has a place in baseball, umpires need to be held accountable for their performance, good umps should be rewarded, bad umps should be deep sixed, pay should be atractive enough at lower levels to entice qualified umps.  Hell, I would have considered this as a career if the pay at the lower levels was better.  But don't recruit ex players, bad bad idea.

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I guess it never dawned on them that maybe the reason most ex-players don't umpire is because they know the difficulty of it and they know the crap they dished out themselves and wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. I guess they think we are all just people who decided hell, I think I'll be an umpire, having never played or even seen a baseball in our lives.

 

I agree that umpires should be just as accountable for their mistakes as a player who boots a grounder, strikes out looking, or a coach that makes a bonehead move that cost his team a run.

 

I am afraid that what is eventually going to happen, like many other things in this country, is they are going to take something that has been great for many many years and totally "F" it up.

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First, I want all players to subscribe to every single recommendation also, "all the time" before we have umpires subscribe.

 

Why suddenly start offering more money because ex players should get involved. Why not more money for non players that are there now. Got to give ex players more money eh. I wondered what would drive a higher paycheck.

 

You could add more money to any profession and make it more attractive and increase the pool of applicants.

 

If we bump a guy out after making 3 or 4 bad calls, heck, everyone will get the opportunity to be a MLBU. I'll just wait till that last group of people, which will include me, on earth get the call, it will not be long.

 

Oh heck, just do like Japan and grab the public address mike and just apologize all day long for everything. Nice 24 hour games. I'm so sorry, I apologize for being born, etc. etc.!!!! Cripes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Why do we need so many openings. Since we all know that each one of us is the best umpire on the planet (and we all should think that way or we are not worth our salt), then there only need be 1 opening. In the old days when one could skip, only need to wait 4-6 years, now it can be done after waiting 8 years. How many doctors are making 125K in their 9th year of schooling at 27 years old like a MLBU could with the current system in place? Not every player umpire is going to get to stay long so where is the incentive if you cannot have a 20 year career, unless they pay the 500k a rookie bench warmer can make just in case they fire you after only a couple years and you have been in the minors as a player for a lot of years.

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Replay everything? OK, there goes the neighborhood play. Jeter'd better keep the crutches.

 

Ex-players as Umpires? You got it: I nominate Manny Ramirez

 

 Play-by-play man: "I think Ramirez missed that one...."

Color commentator: " Aww, that's just Manny being Manny"

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The article overall wasn't that bad.  The part about fast-tracking former players to be MLB umpires is laughable.  Like you can stick them in AA for one year, AAA for a year, then right into the big show.  

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