How many warm ups

[zebra2955]

does not matter what inning. Coach takes his starting pitcher and switches him with the right fielder. Stater finished pitching to at least on hitter. Right fielder pitches to one batter( took eight warm warm ups). Coach switches the same two players back to their original positions in the same inning,

 

How many warm ups do you give the original starter when he returns ?

[semper_fi_72]

Any time there is a pitching change the new pitcher gets 1 minute and up to 8 warm up pitches.

The only exception is due to a pitcher coming in to relieve a injured pitcher.

Then he gets all the time he needs.

It is not your job to determine if he needs less because of the change.

Ingrain a one minute clock in your head.

If they work slow it is one minute not how many they throw.

[UmpJM]

zebra,

 

5.

 

JM

[grayhawk]

Any time there is a pitching change the new pitcher gets 1 minute and up to 8 warm up pitches.

The only exception is due to a pitcher coming in to relieve a injured pitcher.

Then he gets all the time he needs.

It is not your job to determine if he needs less because of the change.

Ingrain a one minute clock in your head.

If they work slow it is one minute not how many they throw.

 

This year, Fed added that if F1 is ejected, then the umpire may grant more warm ups.

[semper_fi_72]

zebra,

 

5.

 

JM

Disagree unless you have a case play to site.

[Jocko]

8 to start the game, 8 for a reliever mid-inning, unlimited for injury sub. 5 for a returning F1 between innings.

[UmpJM]

zebra,

 

5.

 

JM

Disagree unless you have a case play to site.

 

Semper_fi,

 

I don't have one. I can't find anything that says definitively one way or the other.

 

My "rationale" is that the rules are consistent that the "first time" a player pitches in a game he gets 8 (special circumstances excepted) and after that he gets 5.

 

Have you got a cite for 8? Is the 6-2-2c Exception?

 

JM

[johnnyg08]

Does the rule say "throws" or "pitches"?

 

I had to eject in a game played under FED rules one time when the new pitcher came in, he went to the side of the rubber and said those were throws and not pitches.  

 

Unreal

[scrounge]

Does the rule say "throws" or "pitches"?

 

I had to eject in a game played under FED rules one time when the new pitcher came in, he went to the side of the rubber and said those were throws and not pitches.  

 

Unreal

 

 

Ok, kid, but whatever they are, you still only get 1 minute to make them.

[noumpere]

zebra,

 

5.

 

JM

Uhoh Yoda.  It's 8.

 

the rule says the 5 only applies at the beginning of an inning.  In this instance he's just a releife pitcher and relief pitchers always get 8.

[Jimurray]

zebra,

 

5.

 

JM

Uhoh Yoda.  It's 8.

 

the rule says the 5 only applies at the beginning of an inning.  In this instance he's just a releife pitcher and relief pitchers always get 8.

Thanks to Steve the Ump's compilation of approved rulings we get this from the 2012 NFHS Interps:

 

"SITUATION 15: Runch, who was the starting pitcher, takes the mound in the fifth inning and takes his five warm-up throws. After getting B1 out, he changes positions with the first baseman, Lewis, who takes his eight warm-up throws. Lewis gets B2 to pop out and Runch now returns to pitch. How many warm-up throws is Runch allowed? RULING: When Runch became a first baseman, he obviously no longer was the pitcher in the game. When he legally returns to pitch later in the same inning, he is considered to be a relief pitcher. Accordingly, Runch is allowed up to eight warm-up throws to be completed in one minute timed from the first throw. (6-2-2c)"

[UmpJM]

I stand corrected.

 

JM

[zebra2955]

Thanks Gentlemen

[BT_Blue]

Also was F1 relieved mid inning or the start of an inning? If it was mid inning F1 is not allowed to return to the mound. If it is the start of the inning treat him as a new F1 and give him 8 (unless he wants less... which hopefully is what happens).

[UmpJM]

BT_Blue,

 

Where are you getting this "mid-inning" restriction?

 

That's not what 3-1-2 says.

 

JM

[BT_Blue]

Its the way I understand the pitching substitution rules. Will have to look at it again.

[Richvee]

ART. 2 . . . If a pitcher is replaced while his team is on defense, the substitute pitcher shall pitch to the batter then at bat, or any substitute for that batter, until such batter is put out or reaches first base, or until a third out has been made..........

A player may be removed as pitcher and returned as pitcher only once per inning, provided the return as pitcher does not violate either the pitching, substitution or charged conference rule........

 

 

Nothing to do with mid-ining. 

[Thunderheads]

I stand corrected.

 

JM

I guess there's a first for everything!

[JaxRolo]

I stand corrected.

 

JM

 

This can not be true!  Have you ever had to say those words before??? 

[noumpere]

Its the way I understand the pitching substitution rules. Will have to look at it again.

Should look before you post.. j/k

 

There's no code where this restriction in before / midinning is in effect.  The specific rules on leaving and returning do vary by pro, college or HS rules.

[BT_Blue]

I just used "mid-inning to say that F1 was replaced as a pitcher by another. I seem to remember something that says something to the effect of "F1 is replaced on the mound by another F1 then he may not return to the mound." Of course, that could also be just for that inning. Its what I get for trying to go by my faulty memory without having my rulebook with me.

[alex7]

BT-Blue's schedule:

 

Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb = sweet-talk wife into letting me buy a boat-load of awesome gear from U-E guys and non U-E guys.

 

March = hit the rulebook!  

 

It's still Feb.

[BT_Blue]

BT-Blue's schedule:

 

Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb = sweet-talk wife into letting me buy a boat-load of awesome gear from U-E guys and non U-E guys.

 

March = hit the rulebook!  

 

It's still Feb.

 

Wrong section... but I do sort of resemble that remark. As do 90% of the people on here.

[alex7]

'Twas just a dig at you not having your rule-book per comment #21.  

[BT_Blue]

Ah right... got it. I actually have two sets (working both in Vancouver and in Portland)