midmoump 41 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 As you can see from the new Umpire-Empire banner ad, Midwest Ump and Umpire-Empire have jointly created an on-line Baseball Rules Seminar to study the rules of baseball. The seminar is eight weeks long and studies the professional rules - the mother of all baseball rulebooks. High school and college seminars are in development and will be announced soon. We have modeled this seminar after on-line courses offered by major colleges and universities. We are using a textbook, the on-line rules, video from actual games to illustrate each rule, a member forum to discuss the rule, and a weekly test. Our text is The Rules of Professional Baseball by Jaksa and Roder. Each week we study several chapters of the J/R Manual. This is a very effective way to study the rules of baseball! The Baseball Rules Seminar is forum-based and on-line, so it is very convenient. Study, view the videos, or post discussion at night, at work - any time of day or night! The Seminar is not restricted to umpires. It can benefit: • Coaches • Players • Fans • Announcers (ya hear that, Tim He-who-shall-not-be-named?) We are beta testing the seminar and enrolling now for eight week seminars starting November 1 and November 15. The seminar is regularly $149, but is currently offered at an introductory price of $99. For more information and view samples of the seminar, CLICK HERE. View or FAQ or email your questions to: pete.reiser@yahoo.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FVBump 10 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 may be intersted in the HS rules one when it is announced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yawetag 807 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Does the cost include the J/R book? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaxRolo 3,226 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Does the cost include the J/R book? The website says you must purchase the book. I know it is a book I should get. But I can't afford the price of both combined right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
semper_fi_72 515 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Doesn't say you need the book. Says they will use it to interpret some of the rules. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaxRolo 3,226 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Doesn't say you need the book. Says they will use it to interpret some of the rules. You are correct. This is what the site says: "Instruction is based on The Rules of Professional Baseball: A Comprehensive Reorganization and Clarification by Jaksa and Roder." So though it is not required it would probably help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UmpTTS43 245 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Understanding that the J/R was used as an interpretive guide at a former pro school, this is no longer the case. There are discrepencies between J/R and current interpretations concerning pro rules. That being said, this is a wonderful endeavor that y'all are taking on. I wish you the best of luck and success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Umpire in Chief 1,651 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 The J/R will definately help, if you are dedicated and folow the discussions and ask appropriate questions I think you may still be at a slight disadvantage, but could still benefit. The syllabus has been designed based off of the J/R, Here is an example of this weeks syllabus. The chapters refer to the chapter in the J/R, in OBR it will jump around quite a bit. Chapter 3: The Batter at Bat A. Batter assumes legal batting position 1. Rule 2.00 (Batter)(Batter’s Box) 2. Rule 6.03 (both feet within lines) Video: Batter must have both feet completely on or within lines of box: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10524631 B. Time requested by batter 1. Rule 2.00 (Time) 2. Rule 6.02( (leaving box / requesting time) Video: Request for time denied: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9259523 C. Batter is out when: 1. Third strike caught a. Rule 6.05( (third strike legally caught) b. Rule 6.05(B), comment 2. Third strike uncaught, first base occupied a. Rule 6.05 © 3. Third strike bunted foul or HBP a. Rule 6.05(d) b. Rule 6.05 (f) 4. Third strike assessed for refusing to enter box a. Rule 6.02© (batter refuses to take position) 5. Batter is out of box a. Rule 6.06(a) b. Rule 5.09(d) Video: Batter out of box, no call: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11026445 Video: Batter called out for outside box: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7356517 6. Batter changes batter’s boxes while pitcher is in-contact a. Rule 6.06(B) D. Batter not out when: 1. Third strike uncaught, first base not occupied Video: Uncaught third strike: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3610146 2. Third strike uncaught, first base occupied, two outs Video: Uncaught third strike, two out: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=5326245 Chapter 4: Designated hitter Chapter 5: Altered versus Illegal bat A. Illegal bat 1. Rule 1.10©(d) Video: Illegal bat: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3180386 B. Altered bats 1. Rule 6.06(d) Video: Altered bat: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?conte ... id=7417714 Chapter 6: Runner and Batter-Runner Out, Not Out 1. Rule 2.00 (Runner) Runner acquires a base by touching or passing it Video: Runner acquires a base by passing it: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p&c_id=mlb A. Any runner is out when: 1. He is tagged while off base a. Rule 7.08© b. Rule 7.08(j) c. Rule 7.10© d. Rule 6.08(a) e. Rule 7.04(B) Video: Wide turn: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3424990 2. He is forced out a. Rule 7.08(e) b. Rule 2.00 (Force Play) Video: Time play, not a force out: http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_ ... tp_350.wmv Read the article: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p&c_id=mlb Video: Trailing runner is tagged out removing force: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11454443 Video: Trailing runner is tagged out removing force, run scores: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12100323 3.a. Runner is passed 1. Rule 7.08(h) Video: Batter/runner passes runner at first, removes force, tag: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=4905585 3.b. Runners occupy same base, trailing runner out 1. Rule 7.03 Video: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... Id=rss_mlb Video: but sometimes you get a double play: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... l&c_id=mlb Video: Be careful that both runners are occupying the base: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p&c_id=mlb 4. Out of the baseline a. Rule 7.08(a)(1) Video: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11881439 Video: Out of baseline at first base: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9142505 5. Abandonment a. Rule 7.08(j) b. Rule 7.10© Video: runner abandons at first (read the article): http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p&c_id=mlb 6. Runs bases in reverse order a. Rule 7.01 B. Batter/runner, exclusively, is out when: 1. Batted ball is caught a. Rule 6.05(a) Video: incredible: http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_ ... xmlb-1&v=2 2. Tagged a. Rule 6.05(j) b. Rule 6.08(a) c. Rule 6.09(B) 3. Infield fly a. Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) b. Rule 6.05(e) Video: Infield fly called, no force play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbuv96a26qU Video: Infield fly called, runner tagged: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... &fext=.jsp Video: Infield fly not called, double play results: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?conte ... 4&c_id=mlb Video: Infield fly called, ball dropped: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?conte ... 9&c_id=mlb 4. Intentionally dropped ball a. Rule 6.05(l) Video: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... sp&c_id=la Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Umpire in Chief 1,651 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) Understanding that the J/R was used as an interpretive guide at a former pro school, this is no longer the case. There are discrepencies between J/R and current interpretations concerning pro rules. That being said, this is a wonderful endeavor that y'all are taking on. I wish you the best of luck and success. The interpretations can and do vary between J/R, Evans, and any other interpretations manual. Heck if they wrote the rules well we wouldn't need any of those. Edited October 21, 2010 by Umpire in Chief Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UmpTTS43 245 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 The interpretations can and do vary between J/R, Evans, and any other interpretations manual. Heck if they wroth the rules well we wouldn't need any of those. I am totally with you. Best success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midmoump 41 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Understanding that the J/R was used as an interpretive guide at a former pro school, this is no longer the case. There are discrepencies between J/R and current interpretations concerning pro rules. That being said, this is a wonderful endeavor that y'all are taking on. I wish you the best of luck and success. Thanks for the encouragement. We try to supplement the J/R material with outside sources like Evans, the BRD, the MLBUM and PBUC. The sources don't always agree, which just adds to the discussion. Why we chose the J/R Manual is its organization. It is set up like a textbook and allows us to systematically progress from rule to rule. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDawg 11 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I am still a little confused. Is this a seminar or a webinar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midmoump 41 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I agree, "seminar" is a little confusing. The Baseball Rules Seminar is a rules study course, not a webinar. We do not have set times to meet, everyone participates at his or her own convenience, much like the U-E forum. One young college aged umpire in our beta group tells us that the seminar is very similar to his on-line college courses. We chose the term "seminar" because we are not a licensed school. The terms class, course, school, etc. can be misleading and in some cases may be prohibited unless the instruction is sanctioned by the state. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDawg 11 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I understand where you are going with this now. I was just a little confused because when I have a company seminar, I physically have to go to it, which is why I was wondering why. Thanks for getting back to me, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yawetag 807 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Looks like a great adventure, and I'd love to be a part of it. However, the next two months are full of things, and I'd be surprised if others aren't busy. I know having it during the season is probably not the best idea, so I'll look at it again next Fall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midmoump 41 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 The course is pretty long at eight weeks (the same length as a college quarter). It is important to give our seminar members the time to do the reading, review the supplemental material, and participate on-line. The format works well for exploring the rules at a pace that is convenient for all members. Eight weeks from November is also the time when the pro umpire schools start, so we thought this seminar would be a good primer for someone wanting a pro job. We intend to continue to offer the seminar for the foreseeable future and also introduce a high school specific rules seminar by the end of the year. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yawetag 807 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 We intend to continue to offer the seminar for the foreseeable future and also introduce a high school specific rules seminar by the end of the year. Pete, A course that begins in mid-January for high school would be perfect for me, and would probably pique my interest. Our season starts mid-March, and that point, most of the work would be completed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
willv28 10 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Looks great. Can't join this short of order. Maybe in the future look at an open source course management solution such as Moodle to conduct the course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midmoump 41 Posted October 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Moodle looks very interesting. Thanks for the tip! Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yawetag 807 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Looks great. Can't join this short of order. Maybe in the future look at an open source course management solution such as Moodle to conduct the course. Thanks! I'm working on an online intranet training program for my department. Even with my PHP/SQL knowledge, I was not looking forward to designing what we wanted. This does most of what we want, and I doubt I'll have to do any modifications to the code. The only thing I have to research is grabbing session variables from our site, so the users won't have to login twice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeLikesStrikes 10 Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 The sample syllabus has sold me. I am in for $99. Personally, I enjoy a class focussed on rules as mechanics clinics tend to get on my nerves a bit. Kinda like role-playing at work. Necessary evil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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