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  1. Guest

    Dead ball ground rule double

    Its a timed ball game. With new inning starting as last out is recorded. Tie ball game runners on 1st and 2nd 2 outs. 15 seconds left on the clock. Batter hits a 1 hopper over the fence forna dead ball ground rule double. The runner from 2nd scores but the runner from 1st touches 2nd and thinks game is over. He back tracks to celebrate at 1st. With about 6 seconds to go the batter/runner passes the runner between 1st and 2nd. We call time and call the out. And new inning starts. Is this the correcr call
  2. Saw this today https://chsaanow.com/2018-07-05/2018-19-baseball-rules-xhanges-focus-on-pitching-mechanics/
  3. https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2018-08-16/college-baseball-video-review-challenge-system-approved It seemed as though it would only be a matter of time before the IBB and no fake to third would be implemented. The changes on pitchers' positioning is going to be problematic unless there is a universal effort to enforce the new standards. The HBP and runners staying at their bases changes are the most interesting to me. I wonder what the penalty will be for runners leaving their bases during a defensive conference.
  4. This past weekend, I was acting as onsite UIC, and as I was rolling the cooler full of ice, water, and towels from one field to another, replenishing the guys between innings, one of my crews had a situation happen right in front of me which I was very proud of how they handled it... without botching it or consulting me or the TD. R1, R2, 2 outs, X-2 count (balls not relevant). Swinging strike, pitch makes contact with the bat, and ends up... in the F2's armpit, trapped there. F2 gets up, flips the ball towards the mound, and starts trotting towards his dugout while the DT fans applaud his outstanding catch... ... but was it a catch? The 3BC (OTHC) starts bellowing, "That's not a catch! That's not a catch! Get the rule right!" while the PU steps back, and instead of making an Out mechanic, motions and calls, "Time!". I refrained from saying anything, as much as my younger umpire-self would have liked to, instead leaving it to this crew to determine. The PU motioned in the BU, and they met just in front of the mound. At this point, both the OTHC and the DTHC are on the field, and the PU has to signal to both of them to back off and return to their dugout areas, before he resumes discussing with the BU. Of course, the DT parents are, to a person, clamoring, "But it didn't hit the ground! He caught it!" I'm standing right next to the Field Marshal (FM, an employee of the TD), telling him, "It has to be the glove first for a foul tip. If it hits anywhere else on the catcher's body, like his mask or CP, it's a foul ball." At that moment, the PU disengages from the BU, heads back towards the plate, and announces, "Foul ball." DTHC approaches PU while his players resume their positions, and PU gives him a brief explanation, ending with, "My UIC is standing right there (points at me), he'll tell you the same thing." "Play!" Next pitch is a line-out to F5. Oh well. Nicely handled, Blue!
  5. Does anyone have this ? Is it worth the $20 ? Thanks,
  6. sd181612

    Home Run?

    I'm watching the Astros/Angels game and Valbuena hits a ball towards right field. To me it appears that it hit the yellow line,; Davis called it a home run. Review ensues, call's overruled, double. Isn't the yellow line considered to be out of play therefore a homer? Thanks.
  7. Fellow umpires, I need to present a situation to you. Personal and professional relationships are affected by it (along with financial, as in who owes who a beer... or two). This situation was presented to me (us - a group of friends and colleagues): "I put a pitcher in play standing on rubber taking signs. 2nd baseman had ball trying to trick runner. I called a balk. Right or wrong?" The responses started to roll in of "Right on" and "Right" and "100%". I picked up on the "put a pitcher in play..." component, meaning that the ball was Dead, thus, the following HBT could not work. I countered, and said, "Not a balk. Reset. The ball cannot be put in "Play" because the components for doing so were not correct." I went further to say (while others are still saying "Balk" and "That's deception!"), "Nope. Ball cannot be made live (with Plate Umpire saying "Play!") until the pitcher has the ball on the mound on the rubber, ready to pitch (or take signs). If the ball was still Live all along, then yes, that's a balk. But you cannot have a HBT work out of a Dead Ball situation. Cannot. Impossible." I was then embroiled in a cascade of belittling declaratives and arguing, mostly centering around how I'm "obtuse" and how what F1 & F4 did was "deception" and should be called a "balk". I then said, "In order for the umpire to call "Play" and make the ball Live, the pitcher must have the ball and be on the rubber, ready to pitch (or take signs). Otherwise, his standing anywhere else means nothing, because the umpire cannot make the ball live until those criteria are met. Even if you (the umpire) mistakenly call "Play!", the only recourse is to reset it back to the conditions when Dead. R2, F1 with ball (finally), ready to pitch, "Nice try next time!", and Play!" Further declaratives were presented, such as "It is deception because the pitcher cannot be on the rubber without the ball." and "It's a balk." The original questioner then stated "I had Time (called) because (the) base came up (off its moorings).", further reinforcing that it was, in fact, a Dead Ball situation, and that the PU had to make the ball Live again... which means that Rule 5.11 (2014) has to be followed. I was then subjected to a severe text-lashing, with one such statement presented - "Max, I can call anything I want to at any time 'cause I'm the ump". Then, Rule 6.02a (Comment... it must be 2015 re-numbering quoted) was presented several times: "If there is a runner, or runners, on base it is a balk when: Straddling the pitcher's rubber without the ball is to be interpreted as intent to deceive and ruled a balk." I responded, each time, "When the ball is Live, (that's) absolutely (correct)." Next, was a truly wonderful statement: "You're just FULL OF CRAP Max!!" I then quoted Rule 5.11 again, this time verbatim. The words "Idiot" and "Hard headed" were then applied to me. To his credit, the OP then asked, "What about deception though... No penalty?" I replied with, "Ball was never Live." I have since talked with a couple of the discussion participants individually, and while civil and friendly, there is a sentiment that, for this "deception", the defense must be penalized with a Balk call. My fundamental point is that it can't be – it cannot be a Balk, it cannot be an Out, it cannot be anything – because the ball wasn't Live to begin with. Because the Umpire(s) lost track of where the ball is, and the PU said "Play!" in error does not make that ball Live, because according to the Rules, that ball has to be in the possession of the pitcher in order to be (made) Live; the ball residing in the F4's glove is Dead, and cannot be made Live by any declaration of (any/the) umpire. In essence, in order for Rule 6.02 (which I guess in the 2015 renumbering was 8.02?) to be valid and applied (a Live ball), then 5.11 has to be valid and followed. I am rather upset by this discussion. In no way am I trying to one-up anyone, nor am I trying to get anyone to say, "Wow Max, you are right, and we're nothing in your brilliance!". I'm just trying to point out the simple fundamental fact. I have no criticism of the OP, who called "Play!" without recognizing the ball not in the possession of the pitcher – these sort of things happen to any/everyone one us. There's plenty of us who have not even put a ball back into "Play!" after a foul ball! And I don't have a criticism of him calling a Balk... He didn't seem to get any kick-back at the time about it. He approached our group with this question, because it was bugging him. I don't even have a qualm with most of my colleagues who feel that a Balk should be called (Again, I think I'm right that Balk isn't warranted, by Rule), because, of course, I may be wrong. I'm confident that I'm not, but I could be. The answer lies in the Rules, and the official interpretation and application of them... and this here "obtuse idiot" wants to know what needs to be interpreted and applied for this situation. Thank you for your attention and insights... Let 'em rip.
  8. Preface from the Manual (2010 Version)... This manual was designed to supplement the Official Baseball Rules, and the interpretations and common application included provide a clear and concise understanding of rules as they were most closely intended to be read. The Official Baseball Rules is one of the oldest codes in professional sports that have never been completely overhauled. As situations arose throughout the years which were not specifically covered in the rules, it fell upon the Rules Committees to come up with new rules that would fill these gaps. For fear of making drastic rules replacements, the code was only added to, never rewritten. After the 1976 season, the Rules Committee also agreed to include the casebook comments found in both the National and American League umpire notices and directives of interpretations. These additions to the rules have often caused for contradiction and confusion regarding how the rules are to be enforced. This supplemental material was intended to solve some of that confusion and misunderstanding. This manual was compiled together by the staff of the Wendelstedt Umpire School, through many years of instruction and rules re-organization. This staff is composed of several full time Major League umpires, numerous Minor League umpires, and formerly consisted of five current Major League umpire supervisors. This manual is designed and assembled using several criteria including the common and clarified organization of the rules, the ordinary order in which most rulings will be made throughout a game, and the methods and teaching timeline used during the Wendelstedt Umpire School 5-Week Professional Course. Whenever possible, the interpretations mentioned are officially recognized by the umpires and supervisors of both the Minor and Major Leagues. However, in cases where “official” interpretationare not directly available, we have provided suggestions as to how the plays and situations should be ruled on using the practical and common applications of professional umpires today. The Rules and Interpretations Manual provides a summary of areas of the rulebook that are complicated, offers OBR rulebook cross-references, adds historical contexts and useful hints in applying rules on the field to aid in the reasoning for such rulings, and is designed to comprehensively rewrite and reorganize the rules in an orderly an understandable fashion. It will include crossreferenceswith the relevant amateur rules in NFHS, NCAA, and NAIA playing codes. Each area is clearly identified. It also provides a variety of reference plays and situations to greater clarify specific rulings.
  9. Is there a rule that you would add or delete at any or all levels of baseball? I would add a mandatory announce substitution rule. Without it, coaches can & sometimes do use this to their advantage. Say Baker PHs for Charlie in the 4th inning but its not reported. Come the 6th inning same team wants to PH Baker for Daniel. You don't have Baker listed as being in the game on your lineup card. Officially, Baker has never been in the game according to your lineup card.
  10. kylehutson

    USSSA vs FED

    I've searched this online, and found this forum because of that searching. Seems like a friendly place to ask a question, so thanks for letting me join in! I started umpiring several years ago for a rec league that uses FED rules. I'm now in my second year at the high school level, also using FED rules. I was asked to work a tourney next week that is using USSSA rules. I've looked and haven't even found what USSSA rules are other than http://www.usssabaseball.org/rules-by-laws . Those 13 pages don't even come close to covering all the rules, so do they use OBR except the ones on this list? If so I can consult http://www.stevetheump.com/nfhs_pro_rules_dif.htm , which I've seen widely cited. If not, what do I need to know to go from FED to USSSA?
  11. in little league - can the first basemen set up in foul side of the line with both feet out to pick off a runner after the pitch.
  12. Yesterday, ... 18u Pastime Tournament .....   R1, no outs, count is 1-0 ....   Pitch comes in .... foul tip, ... F2 fires down to first to try and get F1 leading off too much .....   As F2 readies and fires .... the batter (who was their pitcher) says ... "I tipped that" and watches the play on R1 at first, then looks back at me as I finish my foul tip mechanic ..... he says it again "I tipped that" .....I said ..." I know" ....he keeps staring, so I say the only thing I can think of that he's confused about is ....  "that's a live ball" ...........  batter, surprised ...  "OH, ...really?"   I nod and say ..."yes sir"    
  13. Moe

    Cast fiasco

    So, today I did a U16 house league game as the base umpire. My umpire-in-chief was the plate umpire. When we walked on the field, we saw a player with a cast on. My partner immediately told the Manager that the player couldn't play. The manager said that there was no rule covering casts directly or indirectly MLB or OBA. After 15 frikkin minutes, we were going back and forth from Manager to Manager trying to figure it out. My partner said that he could re-injure it, whilst the opposing team said that it was dangerous because he could clip someone and cause serious damage. We texted the president and he said that the player couldn't play, the Manager wouldn't take that as an explanation because he said that the president can't change rules without approval of the board. I took my partner aside (even though he is my umpire-in-chief, I have more experience than him, I also care a lot more then he does and I study the game, evident with my account on this very site. He also does more lower level games than I do, I usually do U18 and 18+ house league and regional ball, so I let him take the lead one, because he IS my boss, and two, because he knows the managers. ) and told him that we could invoke rule 9.01©. He said that he will allow the kid to play with the cast. I was very unsure about this judgement. It turns out, after we sent an email to the vice president of Ontario Baseball Association (OBA), he said that he needs a doctors note. If he has that, he is allowed to play. To me, this is a huge safety issue. I told my partner that we should think of it as a Fiberglass batting glove Thoughts?
  14. Hi all ...   I've searched and found 'some' info I was looking for but not exaclty, so I wanted to post this to separate the issues.   In the posts I've found, I've seen that NON prescription sunglasses are legal in all codes.  Is this something that someone can cite, or, is it something that isn't written anywhere as illegal, therefore, it's allowable?   Thanks ...
  15. This topic here: Go to page 2, post #26,....it all starts there .... http://umpire-empire.com/index.php/topic/55769-questions-about-the-2014-nfhs-umpire-test/   Larry locked this post (appropriately so) because GOEFF's OOO thinking/umpiring de-railed the OP....... ...but it got me to thinking ...........   Even though 5.09(e) does say runners should touch their base after a foul ball .... vacinity is accepted practice (as agrued in the post above)   So .... let's review some others, shall we?   What other rules are written in the rulebook/s (pick your code, doesn't matter) ....however, .... they are "looked over/ignored" from an umpiring perspective?   BE SPECIFIC   I have a couple, but ...I'm sure you'll have a few also, so, have fun ....  GO!!
  16. Ok, so I had this happen to me today. This kid had thrown his bat twice before, and both came with warnings. On the third instance he hit a ball, with a runner on 3rd base, to the outfield but threw his bat causing him to be out/ejected. The kid on 3rd scored. One side's coaches argued that the kid should be returned to 3rd because he threw his bat which should result in a dead ball. The other side's coaches argued that the ball was live because he hit the ball and THEN threw the bat. The umpire decided that the run was to be counted and that the ball was a live ball. Was the umpire correct here? And does an ejection after a thrown bat result in a dead ball?
  17. LL Minors. Local time rule is simple: 1 hour, 45 minutes; drop dead. About 1/3 of us call it by the rule, the others make it up as they go and play on to some extent, usually to finish the inning. The league refuses to put their foot down either way. My question: when the game is called during an incomplete inning and rule 4.11(d)(1) or (2) applies, do I need to stick around after the game try to be the rule cop to decide who won the game, or can I leave the aftermath to the scorekeepers and league officials and leave the field? (The league in no help in clarifying who is responsible). I agree with others that nothing good can come of staying on the field after the game, but I also want to do my job as professionally as possible. Do I stay or do I go?
  18. tldavis19

    Quick question

    I had a fight in a rec Cal Ripken game last night. I ejected both participants in the fight and one of the coaches asked for a rule cite as to why I ejected both players. I know in FED you eject both participants and anyone who leaves their position/dugout except for a coach trying to break it up. I'm not sure what the exact ruling is as far as participants go in Cal Ripken. Also, is it an out for the rest of the game when that player's spot comes up in the lineup regardless of whether or not the team has 9 or more players?
  19. So on Thursday, the NJ governing body -NJSIAA - made the brilliant decision that players and umpires could not wear sunglasses on the brim of their caps while on the field. Another interesting way to inject umpires and rule enforcement into situations that make us seem petty and OOO's. I understand that the many eye injuries that have occured from glasses flying off the players' hat brims while double plays are broken up and when catchers get freight trained are numerous enough to spur the action, but now I can no longer wear my glasses anywhere but on my face. I suppose this might impact the speed of the game, as players will now need to request time to get their glasses from the dugout, but if I refuse their request, and they get drilled with the ball, the next time they will remember to not only bring their glasses onto the field, but they will wear them only in the manner in which the manufacturer(s) expect. Thank you for your time. Good day sir.
  20. Funny story from my flight home last week that I forgot to share with everyone, and I think you'll like it.   Coming home from Vegas last week (business) ... I'm on the aisle, and a couple is next to me.  I take out my NFHS rule books, illustrated, by topic and 2 books I picked up from the SEMUC camp.   When I place them in my magazine pocket in front of me, the NFHS rules by topic is showing outward, ...I think nothing of it and check my phone for messages, and to turn to "airplane mode".   Then, ... from the man (against the window) I hear .....  "oh ...baseball rule book, ...are you a coach?"   I said: "no, I'm an umpire"   He said, "Oh, great, (then started asking me what age-groups I do, etc, etc ... )   He then finishes, ...."I thought of "coach" when I saw the rule book"   I said: "The rule book should have been your first hint that I wasn't a coach, because they CERTAINLY don't read it, or know it"   He cracked up as his son plays competitive travel ball (11u), .........he obviously got my humor!  
  21. Mostly for Little League at different levels, but some NFHS as well. Different levels of difficulty. Different questions, however some will repeat. Enjoy: http://www.thetasoft.com/quiz/quiz.aspx
  22. Here is a link to Amazon: 2014 NFHS Rules Book for Kindle
  23. In a lineup card with BD, once the battery turns around, the pitcher -placed in tenth place in the lineup- takes the turn before for the first batter and reached first base hitting to left. The first batter occupied the batter box after the pitcher and got walk. The BD, which is as second batter, stops in batter box, bunt the ball and reaches safe to first base. Bases loaded. My question is: should I, as umpire, to prevent that the BD consume the turn, as he was replaced by the pitcher and therefore is now officially out of the game? or I should await the defensive team makes the claim to bring the situation in order?
  24. Hi guys! Baseball (OBR): Extrainning, 2 OUTS, GAME TIED, BOTTOM OF THE INNING 11, R1, R2. The Batter (B) hits between CF and RF, the R2 scores easily, the R1 stops his run and returns to congratulate the BR after he reached first base. The visiting team saw that the R1 not stepped on second and made the appeal on that base. The U2 called the runner out (3rd forced out, the run is void). The U1 said the appeal is not admissible in this situation and awarded (to valid) the run. Who is right? What do you think?
  25. Dix posted a good question under rules about HBP. It got me thinking.   How would you handle each of these situations in NFHS?    Remember NFHS 7-3-4 states: "The batter shall not permit a pitched ball to touch him."    
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