Report Riddle me this, When is game over, appeal force play at third (or second) in Ask the Umpire Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM 16 hours ago, noumpere said: If it's dead, then how can the defense make an appeal? The ball can't be dead for some purposes but live for others. appeals are made live, and durring dead ball all the time, and in the play above could have claimed the other runner who i did not whisper to, didnt touch third. But as for dead for some live for others obviously not. You will not answer the question. So as I am going to continue to assume, if a game winning run comes in. (even though base runners have to continue their running responsibilities) the ball is dead.