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  1. Why not be in D, and then cut inside a la U3 on batted balls? That should get U1 to the working area if needed for a call at 1st base (or at 2nd or 3rd base, since the plate umpire won't be rotating in those situations with any crew size anyway). This might lessen the learning curve to 3-man (D would already be a normal position, just generalize it to more situations, and it might provide better coverage on plays at 3rd base than the current mechanic of starting in C does.
  2. Joe West is not working 2-man. There would have to be a catastrophic sequence of events to injure 2 umpires on a 4-umpire crew.
  3. ilyazhito

    Tag up scenario

    Yes. The appeal is a time play, not a force play. If the runner scores legally before the appeal is executed for the 3rd out, the run scores. Even though the conditions for an out on an appeal play are the same as those for a force play (either base or runner may be tagged), an appeal play is NOT a force play. This is important for everyone to know.
  4. ilyazhito

    Tag up scenario

    You are correct, because he needs to tag up from the base that he had at the time of the pitch (defined as when the pitching motion begins), and that base is 1st base. I would honor the appeal on R1.
  5. Both are gone, if the situation is as you describe it. They can continue being assholes to each other in the parking lot.
  6. I get sniped for calling a "Little League strike zone", but I still call the strike zone according to the rulebook dimensions. Bottom of the ribcage is my rule of thumb for the "midpoint between the shoulders and top of the uniform pants". Having a pitch tracker available at every high school field would vindicate other umpires like myself. I'd be calling the same strike zone high school, college, or pro. Players and coaches need to adjust to the rules, not the rules to them.
  7. As Lou said, score the run. The uncaught 3rd strike rule exists as a holdover from the days when catchers did not wear gloves. The reasoning is that the batter does not become out unless he is put out, and the catcher securing strike 3 is the act that puts out the batter (this is why the catcher is credited with a put out on a strikeout, when scoring a game). The rule is suspended when 1st base is occupied with less than 2 outs, to prevent the catcher intentionally failing to put out the batter, and then throwing for an unearned double (or triple, if 2nd base was also occupied at the time of the pitch) play to retire the runners who were forced by the batter becoming a runner. Because the OP happened with less than 2 outs and 1st base occupied, the batter is declared out on strike 3. This removes the force on the runners, so they must be tagged out if they attempt to advance. Because there was no more force, the catcher could not retire R3 by tagging the base. Since R3 was not tagged, and he touched home plate, the run scores.
  8. I use rubbing alcohol to clean my mask pads. Apply an isopropyl alcohol solution to a rag (I typically use an old sock), and wipe the mask pads with the rag. Let the mask pads dry. Your mask should be disinfected.
  9. Only once did this happen in an actual high school game (a scrimmage). The other times were in travel or tournament games. For the record, I personally disagree with this rule, because there is limited, if any reason to suppose that a high school catcher cannot be well-protected in a traditional-style mask and helmet combination, if their collegiate and professional counterparts are well-protected wearing them, and if these same catchers use them in the off-season to no apparent ill effects. If umpires use traditional-style masks, I believe that they should be allowed for catchers as well. There is no distinction between a teenage umpire wearing a traditional-style mask working middle school games (in states where juniors and seniors are allowed to be registered as officials) and an adult umpire doing the same for high school, so there is no reason why a teenage catcher for a JV or varsity team should not be allowed to wear the 2-piece mask and helmet combination when his older brother, who is a college catcher, can do so.
  10. MadMax, that is very interesting. Is there a document on the CHSAA website, or on the Colorado High School Baseball Umpires Association website that says this, or is it just an informal understanding between umpires and catchers that allows this to happen? I would be interested to see this actually play out. I have had catchers occasionally wearing a traditional-style mask and helmet combination in games under NFHS rules, and I did not say anything to anyone about seeing them wear such equipment.
  11. I would have dealt with the situation differently if there was a partner. He would have been the rodeo clown removing the coach from my face and the field (or at least he should have been), and perhaps the game would have continued. I carry a cell phone in my back pocket for emergency situations, so I could call 911 if another difficult situation arises.
  12. I had a crazy situation last night. I was working a 14U travel doubleheader solo. The games were played by NFHS rules with modifications (2018 pro visits to the mound, no headfirst slides at home, 1:50 no new inning time limits). The 1st game was a good, competitive game between two teams wearing blue. The away team won 8-7 in 6 innings due to the time limit. There were no complaints or incidents in the 1st game. The blue team that was the home team in the 1st game stayed for the second game, with the several other players joining them. A team in maroon jerseys came for the 2nd game. The blue team was away for this 2nd game. Both pitchers were throwing strikes, and neither team could score through 3 innings. I heard complaints about strike calls I made (he's calling a Little League strike zone, he's calling both low and high, we don't hit that, etc.) at different times in the 2nd and 3rd innings, but none were addressed to me, so I did not react. In the top of the 4th inning, with no score, 1 out and runners on 2nd and 3rd, a blue batter hit a ground ball to the shortstop, who made an errant throw to the catcher. He was able to recover the ball and set up in the baseline to block the plate. The runner, Blue #8, dove into the catcher and knocked him over, displacing the ball. I called "Time" to sort out the situation, and then decided that, because the catcher had legal position and possession of the ball, was contacted by the runner with an illegal slide, and that contact knocked him down and caused him to lose possession, that I would call malicious contact. When I announced the call, and declared that the runner is out and ejected for malicious contact, all hell broke loose. The coach went out to argue with me, asking me to change the call. I told him that the catcher had legal position, and that I cannot un-eject the runner. He then suggested that the other coach had influenced me into making the call. I told him to go back to the dugout. He went back to the dugout. I overheard him telling his assistant, "Sam, will you coach the team?". He re-emerged from the dugout, started yelling and waving his hands and hat. When he said, "The call is trash!", I told him that he was restricted to the dugout. He then replied, "You're trash!" I ejected him. I went back to the plate, but he continued yelling at me. Meanwhile, the fans of the blue team were yelling abusive comments such as "You suck!", "You're horrible!", "The call is wrong", "We will complain about this". Seeing that the coach would not leave, I told him that he needed to leave the field. This was met by more angry outbursts from him and the fans. I was then afraid for my safety, and I decided to end the game. I announced "This game is over!", dropped the game balls, grabbed my bag, and left to take shelter in the nearby bathroom. 10 minutes later, I was able to get picked up and leave the park. Is there anything that I could have done to handle the situation better? I thought that I might have called the runner out on an illegal slide and issued a warning that the next such slide would result in an ejection. However, I believe that my call was the best way to resolve the situation, in the interests of player safety, though it might seem draconian. Would you have handled the coach differently? As an aside, I have Asperger Syndrome, so I might not always know the best way to act in stressful situations, especially in de-escalating conflicts.
  13. What is the purpose of Evans telling U1 to back up to the cutout with infielders playing in, and then come back in to the working area? AFAIK, being in a normal B or C position would be enough to avoid interfering with the infielders in most cases.
  14. I use U1 (first-base umpire) for the sake of consistency between all umpire systems (except one-man, where the lone umpire is the plate umpire). This is what the CCA, MiLB, and MLB umpire manuals use. I was never taught to move back if fielders are playing deep, and none of my associations use NFHS 2-man (or 3-man, in the playoffs) mechanics.
  15. I was also the proverbial "college kid" when I started umpiring, but I did not start with Little League. I started out calling slow-pitch softball and adult league baseball, before moving into high school baseball. The pay for slow-pitch softball ($30 a game) was comparable to the Little League pay that you guys mention. For working adult league baseball, I did buy an umpire uniform and start-up baseball/softball gear from a local vendor, so I did spend about $150 on gear and uniforms. However, my experience is probably not typical (umpire sliding into high school ball with prior 2-man experience). My goals were also different than those of the typical college kid starting umpiring, because I was (and am) interested in umpiring long-term, whether in professional baseball or at the NCAA Division I level. Re: plate shoes, they are an absolute MUST when working lower-level baseball or softball. It is easy to get hit in the feet with a batted or pitched ball, and that ball can hurt when it hits an unprotected (or barely protected) toe.
  16. U2? That is the 2nd base umpire. U1 deep might make sense with fielders in, but I have never adjusted backwards from C to deep C just because fielders were playing in.
  17. The batter is not forced to go to 2nd base, so the out on appeal for missing 2nd base would not be considered a force out. Thus, all runs from the batted ball count, unless the batter was appealed before R2 crosses home. In that case, only 1 run scores.
  18. This is not a bona fide slide, per OBR, so this play would be illegal in any rule set. The runner (and batter) are out.
  19. I live in the DC Metro Area, more specifically Montgomery County, MD. I call high school baseball all over the Metro Area (Northern Virginia [Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church], Prince George's County, Montgomery County, the District of Columbia).
  20. I'm curious to know which levels use 3-umpire mechanics on a consistent basis. Right now, I am a high school umpire who gets occasional 3-umpire experience through playoff games and camps. I would love to move up to eventually work Division I games, but before I reach that level, I will need to have experience working 3-umpire games (and at least a basic working knowledge of 4-umpire mechanics, since some conferences at the D1 level use 4 umpires for regular season conference games, as well as all D1 postseason games outside of the College World Series). The $64,000 question is where I can get that experience. AFAIK, junior college, like high school, uses 2 umpires for the regular season, with 3 in the playoffs. Do Division III or Division II use 3 umpires in the regular season? If so, I'll ask the local DIII and DII conferences about trying out in the next few years. Is there any non-scholastic baseball (preferably in the Mid-Atlantic region), such as Babe Ruth or American Legion that consistently uses 3 umpires? AFAIK, all of the rec or travel leagues I have serviced use 2 umpires, and I haven't gotten any invites to work as an unpaid 3rd. Of course, if I get hired to call affiliated professional baseball, this will be irrelevant, because I will be exposed to 3-man at the lower levels for postseason assignments, and consistently at the AA level. Is the 3 umpire crew standard in independent professional baseball, or is it a league-by-league thing (ALPB uses 3, but the Can-Am League does not)?
  21. The cup is a foreign object, unlike a glove, so it cannot be used to legally make a play on the ball (like a hat, mask, pocket, etc.). Thus, ball is dead, and batter and other runners receive a 2-base award from the time of pitch for a ball out of play lodged in a foreign object.
  22. The flip to 3rd without a step, while on the rubber, is illegal. Re: whether the defense can appeal after a play, the answer is no. After a (legal or illegal) pitch to the next batter or a play (an attempt to retire a runner), the defense has forfeited the right to appeal. NFHS may have some exceptions for offense-initiated plays, but otherwise, once the defense attempts to retire a runner by some other means (pickoff), they cannot appeal. As a balk is both an illegal pitch and an illegal play, the right to appeal is forfeited for both reasons (illegal pitch and attempted play on a runner).
  23. The rule that a batted ball hitting the fair/foul pole in flight is a fair ball and a home run. This includes the screen or net attached to the fair/foul pole.
  24. I would say A, because the net or screen attached to the fair pole is part of the fair pole. If a ball in flight hits the fair pole (even if the screen is attached incorrectly), the result of the play is a home run.
  25. My association has U1 covering the tag-ups at 1B and 2B, along with advances by R1. We don't use NFHS mechanics, rather a combination of PBUC and CCA mechanics.
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