d-mick

And my character is wanting to help a bunch of people who wanna watch this documentary, whether or not I'm being watched. This isn't a baseball game, it's okay to break the rules some times. Especially if it's not hurting anyone. *Video producer mode on* Look, maybe you think this isn't hurting anybody but if the creators of the film were to find out, they would be upset. I can be certain of this. They spent time, money, and effort on creating the film and whether or not you are showing it publicly or privately, making money off of it or not, they will be hurt by your selfishness in the end. Get a legitimate copy. *Video producer mode off* That's the problem, a legitimate copy isn't available. And believe it or not I am a video producer...I don't produce television specials like this but I produce all kinds of videos from music videos to short films, to documentaries, and I make sure my content has an outlet. If it's not available to audiences then it's asking to be pirated. And besides, the program already aired on TV. As far as the producers are concerned the video's life is over. They might get one more re-run out of it but it's from a World Series a couple years ago and is essentially dead now. If I was the producer of this program, at this point I would be happy that people want to see it enough that they'd be willing to make a bootleg DVD, mail it to someone, then rip it to show to others. 20 people watching it on an umpire forum is not hurting a television program that aired (past tense) on a national scale... believe me. Saying by not making it available to audiences is asking for pirating is basically saying you think they want you to rip it. It doesn't matter if the video's life is "dead." A pirated video is still a pirated video. I doubt they would be pleased in any way to find out that somebody had burned it to a DVD and encouraged their buddies to illegally download it for their pleasure. You're using the same arguments over and over and everybody involved in the conversation has stated that your idea is NOT COOL and maybe you should take that hint. lol you said it...."NOT COOL".....exactly what all of you naysayers are. Umpire nerds who blindly follow rules without being able to use a little discretion. I'll find this show elsewhere and sweet fuk all will happen because its broadcast life is over and it's not available to view anywhere. So pirating it literally affects no one. Especially when shared privately among a small group of people. The reason they crack down on piracy at all isn't because the producers' wouldn't be pleased....it's because sales are lost. Movies are available in theatres, on DVD, or by streaming, with prices people can pay to view them - so if you pirate a movie you're taking sales away from them. That is "not cool." But if the ability to view something and the option to pay for it is not available, that means they don't give a SH*# about it anymore. It's done. They can't care about it being pirated because they don't lose any money from it. It's dead to them. They're on to producing the next show that they can put on TV and sell advertising time slots for temporarily. Just because something's technically against the rules doesn't mean it's inherently bad. Sometimes you need to question the rules instead of following them blindly.

And my character is wanting to help a bunch of people who wanna watch this documentary, whether or not I'm being watched. This isn't a baseball game, it's okay to break the rules some times. Especially if it's not hurting anyone. *Video producer mode on* Look, maybe you think this isn't hurting anybody but if the creators of the film were to find out, they would be upset. I can be certain of this. They spent time, money, and effort on creating the film and whether or not you are showing it publicly or privately, making money off of it or not, they will be hurt by your selfishness in the end. Get a legitimate copy. *Video producer mode off* That's the problem, a legitimate copy isn't available. And believe it or not I am a video producer...I don't produce television specials like this but I produce all kinds of videos from music videos to short films, to documentaries, and I make sure my content has an outlet. If it's not available to audiences then it's asking to be pirated. And besides, the program already aired on TV. As far as the producers are concerned the video's life is over. They might get one more re-run out of it but it's from a World Series a couple years ago and is essentially dead now. If I was the producer of this program, at this point I would be happy that people want to see it enough that they'd be willing to make a bootleg DVD, mail it to someone, then rip it to show to others. 20 people watching it on an umpire forum is not hurting a television program that aired (past tense) on a national scale... believe me.

And my character is wanting to help a bunch of people who wanna watch this documentary, whether or not I'm being watched. This isn't a baseball game, it's okay to break the rules some times. Especially if it's not hurting anyone.

I'm just a baseball fan who wants to see this documentary...I searched google trying to find any leads on this thing and I found this forum where a few people said they had a DVD copy of it, so I registered and posted. You think I'm some kind of under cover cop trying to pinch a few people for sharing some 2 year old TV special? There are WAY bigger fish to fry out there, believe me...No law enforcement people give a SH*# about this. I don't think you could get the police to do something about this if you contacted them and asked them to. It's not worth the time. I'm talking about privately sharing a DVD. Not selling it. It's like mailing a DVD to a friend....I'm not asking anyone to copy it and sell it. And I would only share the file privately with people who want to see it on this board because it's not available anywhere else. We're probably talking 20 people. Do you have any idea what kind of pirating is going on compared to this? It's a joke that anyone is even worrying about the ethics of this. It's like feeling bad about jay-walking. It's literally the same as letting a friend borrow a DVD. And I'm only suggesting doing this because earlier in this post people were talking about mailing the DVD to a big list of people...so I thought I would revive the discussion and offer to upload a private file instead of the person with the DVD having to send it to a big list of people in the mail like it's 1999. If someone's got a DVD copy and doesn't have a guilty conscience about committing heinous criminal acts such as jay-walking or mailing a DVD to a friend, PM me and I can give you my address and I can make the file available for people who want to see it.

No one will get in any trouble if you just keep it private. The only way you would ever get in trouble is if you share it via torrent sites, or youtube....and even then probably nothing would happen because it's not a major motion picture or TV series....it would just get taken down. If someone has a DVD copy and is willing to mail it to me, I can rip the DVD and upload a private link that I can send to anyone who wants to watch it. No one will ever know about it, and if they find out, it's their fault for not making it available for people to watch.

Damn copyright laws... First of all, no one would ever know because we're talking about copying it for a small number of people on this board who wanna see it....secondly, it's not being copied to be sold. If I were able to get my hands on a DVD of it, I would be able to upload a private link for people to view or download and no one would ever know about it except for people who are given the link.

Can someone just rip the DVD and upload it? Snail mailing it to a bunch of people is kind of ridiculous in this day and age. And if no one knows how to do it, if someone can mail it to me I could rip the video off a DVD and compress it to a small file size that people can download.