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  1. This account does not satisfy the definition of runner interference. If the slide was legal, play the bounce. It's on the defense to move off the base during a force play.
  2. Perhaps, but there's also a reason the rule doesn't say "this is not to be interpreted as a feint to 1B."
  3. No, it's not a feint to first because it's a throw to second. The issue is throwing to an unoccupied base. (The rule is now OBR 6.02(a), and the comment is still there at the end.) Yes: one provision, 6.02(a)(4), specifies the illegal action and mentions an exception, the other, 6.02(a) Comment, provides an example of the exception (albeit a poorly worded one). Both assume that R1 is stealing—without that assumption, the example exception makes no sense, which is presumably why you're asking the question. The rules were not written by lawyers for lawyers, so they contain many apparent contradictions and many instances where the syntax could be improved. They have to be read together, and even so often require additional authoritative interpretation.
  4. This is assuming R1 is stealing. So it falls under the "making a play" exception to the provision that prohibits throwing to an unoccupied base. What's confusing is the instruction not to interpret it as throwing to an unoccupied base, which is exactly what it is. It would have been better to say, "This [throw] to an unoccupied base is a permissible exception when it is a play on a runner." The point of the provision is that F1 may not start to throw to 1B, see R1 stealing, and then change and throw to 2B.
  5. If I see it developing, I'll kill it to tie my shoe. If I don't, I'll treat it like being pushed off the base. If the other coach hears you claiming a sportsmanship issue, you'll need to impose the proper penalty for that kind of violation.
  6. +1 The award is based on the time of the throw, not the time the ball becomes dead.
  7. This is not OBS, it's a hidden ball trick that involves more than the usual amount of deceit. You'll live longer and have better games if you invert your approach: stop looking for a way to call something based on a definition in the book. If your explanation starts with "Technically..." don't call that. I'm a football official, and when we officiate trick plays, all the ticky-tack stuff we usually ignore has to be done perfectly. So that slight illegal shift, as the motion guy starts just as everyone comes set, or that slight illegal formation, where technically 5 are in the backfield, will now get called. This video is an example of how to apply the same philosophy in baseball. If the defense wants to run the hidden ball trick, fine, but they don't ALSO get to trick the runner off the base (except maybe in pro ball, which I don't work). Kill it & fix it.
  8. The TOP runner is entitled to the base when more than 1 runner arrives there, unless he's forced to advance (and in that case the trailing runner is entitled to it). Remember that this "entitlement" applies only when more than 1 runner is touching a base. Otherwise, a base is safe haven for a runner (from being tagged out) unless he's forced to advance.
  9. It's not MC, because it's not malicious. Malicious acts may vary, but generally they involve violent intentional contact with the intent to injure. None of those apply here. It's not OBS because the runner isn't hindered in his attempt to reach a base. I gather this is from pro ball: the out stands. In amateur ball, I'd kill it, put the BR back on 1B, and tell F3 to KTSO.
  10. Eject. No, wait: day game or night?
  11. Incorrect reasoning. The penalty for OBS in all codes is a base award that nullifies the act of obstruction. No other remedies are permitted by rule. An award by definition is the right to run the bases legally without liability to be put out. Missed bases may be appealed for an out, and MC penalized. So would coach INT be: that's not a legal advance.
  12. Yeah, time play, run scores. And: technically, the BR got a 4 base award for his fair batted ball leaving the field in flight. So no, not a force play.
  13. Was it a real hand, or a prosthesis?
  14. Fella came to the wrong forum. I think he was looking for whiny-coaches.com.
  15. maven

    Base running

    FED prohibits team personnel coming out during a live ball, but on a HR I wouldn't allow them in fair territory until the runner is done.
  16. 3b and 4a become easier if we remember that, when engaged, F1 may do just 3 things: Pitch to the batter Disengage Step and throw/feint to a base #3 requires stepping to the base and throwing/feinting a throw to that same base. I have him disengaged in 4b, so legal.
  17. Agree on both. If not ejected, I'd certainly issue a team warning and eject the next offender.
  18. I agree with noumpere: trying to pre-emptively prevent this by saying something at the plate meeting is a bad look. The subtext of such an announcement is: "I'm not very good, and I'm red-ass enough to dump you for pointing it out." But that doesn't mean you have to take the abuse. When the chirping starts, nip it in the bud. "Coach, we're not doing that today." And when he goes to, "But I just..." cut it off. "Coach, I'm happy to discuss the occasional ruling, but we're not having a running commentary on the officiating. This is your only warning." After pace of play, putting up with shît is the worst habit of most amateur umpires.
  19. If it's the same as baseball, that's nothing, play on. BR advances, run scores.
  20. No: the reason is that F4's action does not satisfy the definition of a TAG. Specifically, he does not have secure possession of the ball in hand or glove when he touches the base. So, yes, lodged ball, advance all runners.
  21. maven

    Pop-Up Interference

    I agree with Max: INT by R3 (which is what we have here) doesn't nullify IFF. The reason is that the batter is out by rule on the IFF, so the INT making the ball dead does not affect that out. So, if foul: R3 is out for his INT, batter returns with a strike added to the count, now 2 outs and R1, R2. If fair: R3 is out for his INT, and the BR is out on the IFF, inning over.
  22. maven

    Showing bunt

    Learning how to handle bush league opponents is an important lesson in youth baseball. Bush has always been part of the game, decreasingly as we move up through the game. Why do you suppose that is?
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