Richvee

That’s pretty brutal getting tested on age group differences and local league rules. Seems things like that you can be reminded of in the pregame. Good luck. I’m sure you’ll do fine.

I'm on the fence. Personally, I'd love to see it align across codes. I also can clearly see the issue with consistent enforcement. Especially at the sub varsity levels, and especially by the slew of "Sub varsity lifers " in the high school ranks.

Not a fan. I'm looking for more uniformity within codes. Not more differences.

I was talking about this with someone. There's a few odd circumstances that could crop up. I don't know if they are addressed anywhere. 1-2 pitch. 1B empty. pitch on the inside part of the plate, F2 tries to "frame", misses the ball. Umpire calls a ball, batter takes off for 1B. He gets there, taps his head. ABS says strike.

100%

We do, in high school have the option to be "that guy" and start calling strikes when the batter steps out with 2 feet and there was no exception. I don't want to go there, and I've never had to. When the batter sees your not letting a pitcher start prematurely, 99% of them will stop the shenanigans, get in the box and get ready to hit.

Last season I started using the college mechanic, now a NCAA rule, about pitchers not starting the stretch or the windup until the batter is in the box and alert to the pitcher. Im not warning or penalizing a pitcher, I’m just not letting him start before the batter is looking at the pitcher and ready. I’ll step out, call time and tell the pitcher not to start until the batter is ready. Only one coach so far has anything to say, and said nothing after I said “it’s a safety issue coach. I’m not letting your pitcher throw a pitch when the batter isn’t looking. Your batters will get the same courtesy”.

@BaseBlue was right. My play was trying to show the second play, where the award would be TOT. I mistyped. Fixed it.

Fixed TY

Not to muddy the waters for you, but compare it to this play… R1, hit and run, GB to SS. SS flips to F4 covering second- late, R1 is safe, play continues with a throw to 1b (BR is NOT there yet)- Ball sails out of play. Now we have the throw to 1b as the SECOND play, so the award is TOT…R1 home, BR 2B (because he wasn’t at 1B time of throw).

Correct

Here's the play where you can possibly see this. R1, hit and run, ground ball, fielder has no shot at R1 @2b, he bobbles the ball, in his haste to get the throw to 1B doesn't realize BR is already there. Throws it away. Score R1, BR to third. Prepare to explain to the DHC.

Read the rule book Even if you think you know the rule. Read it all the way through Sometimes there's things in a rule you may not have realized...exceptions, and so forth.

Great news!! Happy for you!

The problem with answer one is he's keeping the lineup card in the dugout and you don't have it to start the game. You need it to start the game, The "reality" answer is you accept the lineup card and when he subs people in you just write them into the lineup. If there's only 2 or 3, by all means, write them down and start the game. If he's got 10, just take the lineup with the starters, tell him he really should write the subs on the card next time, and start the game.

I have a little back story to add from this game. as one may expect, F1 did this more than just this once, varying pause times. This one being one of the longest if not the longest. He also tried this pause with multiple “pumps” or kicks of the leg which were correctly penalized. Boils down to yours and the crews judgement.

I did t realize that note (ar) 2 was that old. Maybe I’m just recalling a conversation with colleagues about the pause. To be clear, I’m not doubting for a minute that a pause is allowed during the delivery to the plate. My question is when does “a brief pause” become “an interuption”?

Maybe I'm miss remembering. When this rule was originally added, I remember, either in an on line clinic, or live pre season clinic, somewhere, someone said, "This is to allow the "Japanese windup", where a pitcher will pause after taking a step back before proceeding to deliver the pitch. ". Only later did interps start popping up about "during the delivery" So I do believe this was added for the pause after rocking back and before delivering, and it has evolved through interps. Similar to the "batter being ready and alert to the pitcher" had evolved though interps before there was actual rule language in the book.

I'm really stumped. How does an alleged CC and CWS umpire call time, and then bang the runner out? Even if it's a brain fart, which we've all had, it ended the inning. When we brain fart, usually, within a few seconds, we realize. "Holy crap, I screwed the pooch on that call." That means he should have had time to say "Damn, I need to get the crew together and fix this". Maybe U2 doesn't want to make waves even though he knows he called time also. Maybe PU and U1 didn't see the call of time. But to call time and the calla runner out?...And not try to fix it? I don't get it.

I agree and the've been chasing their tail on this ruling ever since. In a PDF from our rules interpreter, he lays out pre game check list, pitch clock rules reference card, pitch clock crew mechanics, replay, substance checks, and double 1B rules/mechanics in a well laid out, easy to read format. In it, he says... "From the windup position, once the delivery to the plate has begun, a PAUSE is legal, a PUMP is not" That said, my mind keeps going back to "A pitcher may pause briefly"

Exactly why I think we need an official interp. Yes, 2019...2025 we have a change in rulebook change in terminology... 9-1-a(8) note 2 A pitcher may pause briefly during the delivery from the windup position without penalty. I don't think this is a brief pause. And without some guidance, it's completely up to whoever sees it as to what they determine to be brief.

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I wish I did. I am tech challenged.

NCAA. What do you have? How about FED? https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NLrrDm3mY/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I'm happy for Dan. I've had Dan as an instructor back when I began with my first high school assigning group, and this fall at a 3 man camp. Always a pleasure to listen to and learn from.