Richvee

It's just the way we talk

As mentioned. A batter’s actions cannot cause a pitcher to balk. If a batter requests time late, as a HP umpire, I may say “nope” or “too late”. But certainly not point or making any hand gestures. For the record, NJ middle school is played under FED rules. Also consider this….on any given day on NJ there’s hundreds of varsity and sub varsity high school baseball games. Then add in middle school contests. The pool of real good, well trained FED umpires thins out quickly after the varsity games are filled. (Actually, well before that, but I digress )……You get where I’m going here……

Evidently not these two guys.....Or any other part of the rule.

But this is a time play. R3 crossed the plate before the appeal out on R1… but then R1 went back.

I think it’s almost the same scenario. R3 leaves crack of the bat. So does R1. R3 crosses home, now the ball is caught. R3 retouches home and heads to back 3b while the throw comes in and retires R1 to end the inning. R3, now in between home and 3b, trots to the dugout - the inning is over. How could we score that run? When would we “declare” run scores? The defense would never consider appealing seeing r3 between 3rd and home, but if the umpire claims”score the run “ now they would appeal. 🤷‍♂️

I haven’t heard “the rest of the story. This is south Jersey. A different world from us northern folk. The gossip usually doesn't travel this far…. Unless it’s state tournament related. .. No protests allowed in NJ. FWIW, I have foul ball. Hit in the box. But hey, at least he came up big and sold it. 👍😁

Been there too.

I was thinking the same thing. Welcome to northeast college baseball.

Unfortunately, way too often it’s not possible.

R1/R2

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Had it happening today. One great catcher catching breaking pitches at the knee/ hollow of the knee, outside corner, right behind the plate, body still, glove up, the other catcher shifting his body and pancaking every breaking ball behind the opposite batters box. Yeah, the bad catcher’s pitcher wasn’t hitting the spots quite as consistently, but let’s just say, if the good catcher was catching the opposing pitcher, there more than likely would have been a few more strike calls.

yes

I think I’ve added more balls to counts for this than time violations this year.

Or, just a jack wagon

First off, this is a safety issue. At no level do I want the pitcher delivering the pitch when the batter is getting set in the box and not alert to the pitcher. There are rules in place in OBR and NCAA now, that require the batter to be alert to the pitcher before he begins a wind up, or begins to come set. Even FED, at the very least, requires pitchers to simulate taking a sign from the catcher before delivering. Personally, I have adopted the NCAA rue of the pitcher must wait for the batter to be ready, and alert to the pitcher in the box, before the pitcher may begin coming set or starting his windup in all my games across all codes. I've only had one jackwagon coach tell me his pitcher can pitch the moment the batter steps in the box. I simply told him its a safety issue, and your batters will get the same courtesy.

Pitch off the catcher and into the dugout. Award 1B. All codes

The OP didn't mention if it got there because the batter kicked it there. Or stepped on it and it "squirted there. OBR/NCAA would have interference and batter out, FED would award 1B unless it was intentional by the batter.

Yep. Rule set, and how it got there matter.

So now it’s obvious my sarcasm detector wasn’t working listening to the jack wagon on the Texas/Texas A&M game.

I haven't. I was watching Texas/Texas A&M Saturday, and they were talking about the Friday night LSU/Tenn game. Not that I put any faith in announcers, one was saying "I learned something last night.. I learned the defensive coach can go talk to his pitcher during an offensive conference, but the offensive coach can't talk to the runners during a defensive conference". Evidently Vitello did it at some point Friday and it created a stir. I have no details.

Don’t you think it’s odd it’s written specifically addressing rules during a defensive conference? Why wouldn’t it be worded more like “if a team takes a charged conference , in order for the opposing team to leave their positions and converse. they would also need to request a charged conference “.

I believe this came up on the LSU/Tenn. game Friday night, but I didn’t see it, so I’m not sure what the outcome was. 6-5-f(4)— Offensive conferences shall not be charged during a defensive team’s timeout for a pitching change. Any runners who leave their positions during the pitching change must must return to their bases prior to the last warmup pitch so play is not delayed or risk being charged with an offensive conference. Batters or baserunners may not leave their positions during a charged defense conference unless they also request an offensive charged conference. Is the opposite true? If a team requests an offensive conference, can a coach and or position player talk to the pitcher without being charged a defensive conference?

Perhaps flag football?