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  1. You might be an umpire if you see some sort of argument going on anywhere (Costco parking lot, Starbucks, etc) then throw up your hands and yell "TIME!" I did that once in a bar, where two patrons were about to throw down. So startingly it was that everyone stopped and revaluated the dumb situation (including myself).
    6 points
  2. Well, they are wearing navy, so.....
    6 points
  3. I, too, wanna hear what mask you got that has a “too small” strap / harness to it (my guess is either Wilson or Champro). The primary problem with these two brands of standard stock harnesses is how un-elastic their elastic is. Because they don’t expand and contract as much, people they have to keep them rather tight, and then they get really challenging to take off and put on. I favor Honig’s, All-Star and even Diamond stock harnesses over Wilson’s, despite (and especially because) the presence of the MLB logo on the back. If you want a little (or a lot) more luxury, then either All-Star’s delta-flex for umpires, or the UmpLife cam-buckle harness is the way to go. I use an All-Star on my FM4000, and UmpLife harnesses on my other three masks. Both of these have rather long, accommodating straps with the right amount of grab.
    5 points
  4. Travel game, 12 or 13 year old's, field with no fence. Batter crushes one to right field which of course gets past F9. B/R is rounding 1st when F3 obstructs him (in the way, makes the runner veer around... you know the kind) so I point/call the OBS. Since EVRYONE is watching F9 run after the ball, I kept pointing to the infraction well until the B/R was almost to 3rd. He rounds and is going for home when a great throw and a relay get the ball to F2 for an absolute banger of a play. Partner does his thing and bangs the out. I come up big: TIME TIME TIME. THAT is obstruction, pointing to 1st base. Partner and I awarded home. Could we have just protected him to 2nd? Of course... but the point of the rule is to remove the act of obstruction, not reward the offense for their infraction.
    5 points
  5. Many moons ago, one of the the more thoughtful and experienced members of this community, @JonnyCat, offered the group some insight that I have fallen back on many times. This play reminds me of that sage advice: Use the rules book to solve problems rather than create them. By rule, R2 is protected to 3B. Any further award is judgment. As many might agree, perspective affects judgment in almost every case. When in doubt, however those words from the past come rushing forward to provide clarity. The rules allow us to judge R2 to be out at HP because he was only entitled to 3B. While that is the letter of the rule, it also provides for judgment to grant further awards. A call of out and declining to award home is certainly supported by rule, however, that may cause more problems than it solves. BU does not strike me as the strongest umpire either. His lackadaisical pre-pitch posture, lack of an obstruction call, inattention to keeping his chest to the ball, and failure to keep his head on a swivel particularly when F2 is throwing a back pick to 2B all suggest that he may not even have considered, let alone call, obstruction on R2. This video would be great resource to use in an intermediate training class for the 2 man system. There is a lot to be learned here!
    5 points
  6. A local kid that I've watched grow up from behind the plate has invited me to be with him and his parents at his college signing day. He said I was behind the plate for so many of his games he felt like I needed to be there when he signed up for the next step. I was blown away! I never thought calling balls and strikes would create this kind of memory or moment in life. Maybe not important to a bunch of people but the thought that I could have an impact on 1 kids life just really made my day.
    5 points
  7. overstated, but I always used "If the BATTED ball doesn't leave the infield, PU doesn't leave the plate."
    5 points
  8. It evolved significantly between 2016 and 2017 (which was my first year on the rules committee). The implementation of this rule in 2016 was highly unsuccessful. That was not only my opinion, but the opinion of the vast majority of state high school athletic association officials that I spoke with at that time. When this rule came out in 2016, some states took the position that a coach could not be ejected unless he had been previously warned/restricted. Other states did not. Some states said that something "written" had to be given to the coach when he received a written warning...other states did not. In other words, some of the questions that were asked in the OP to this thread were being asked by state officials! Its one thing for an umpire new to FED baseball to be confused; its quite another thing if a Commissioner in charge of high school baseball for an entire state is confused! If someone asks me today what my single proudest accomplishment as a member of the rules committee is, it is me re-writing this rule, defending my re-write to the full committee, and getting it overwhelmingly passed. Why I am so proud of my re-write of this rule is that in the five years since my re-write was passed all of the upheaval, confusion, and issues that administrators, coaches, and umpires had about this rule have disappeared. I understand some people may not like the rule (that's the case with almost any rule) but at least everyone (new FED umpires excepted) understands it. Defining what constitutes a "written warning", making clear that a warning is not required before ejection for egregious conduct, and drafting numerous case plays to explain this rule's intent will probably stand as my lasting legacy from my four years on the committee. (That and making coach's interference (assistance) a delayed dead ball like every other rule set. LOL)
    4 points
  9. I am a 4 stitch guy by preference, but really it depends on mask/pad combo for safety reasons. You don’t want your hat bill to be too close your mask or you run the risk of your pads decompressing on impact into the bill of your hat and transferring that energy right into your forehead. Someone more technical might be able to give you a better measurement.
    4 points
  10. This is a great post. Another way to say this would be to state what Joe Brinkman said during week 1 of the 1997 Brinkman/Froemming Umpire School: "Don't take the sh!tty end of the stick." If there is some doubt as to whether or not the runner would have scored "but for" the obstruction which argument would you rather have after the play: (1) an argument with the defensive coach who is mad that you scored the run or (2) an argument with the offensive coach that you let the out stand??? Unless you are 100% sure that the runner would not have scored if he had not been obstructed, I am taking argument #1 every time. I can handle this argument because I can end it every time with, "skip, if your player didn't screw up and obstruct the runner we wouldn't even be here!" Electing to take argument #2 is "taking the sh!tty end of the stick." Which leads to the second words of wisdom uttered by Mr. Brinkman during the first week of umpire school: "penalize the team that screwed up!" His point was that if you penalize the team that screwed up you can always end the argument by saying, "skip, if your player didn't screw up I wouldn't have had to make that call!"
    4 points
  11. Why does my neck hurt now? (and thanks for the great review and pics)
    4 points
  12. I do not know of any mechanic, approved or used anywhere, where BU goes home from the middle. In 3 and 4 man, there is a mechanic where U1 slides down to the plate, but not in 2-man. If PU goes to 3rd, and there is an overthrow, PU also has the plays at the plate. Are you saying on a play where R1 goes to 3rd and batter gets out at first, BU should head home? I guess I could see the logic in it, since there are no other runners left except R1 who is now going to third....maybe use it in Rec Summer Ball, but anywhere you may be evaluated, I would not recommend it.
    4 points
  13. There is nothing in the article that says the officials walked because they were denied free food--that's in the headline, but nothing in the body of the story from anyone connected to the schools. On a basketball officiating site, one poster related hearsay information that when the officials went to the snack stand between the girls and boys games, they were told they were terrible and if they wanted food, they'd have to pay for it. If true, it was more likely the disrespect, not the food, that led them to walk, especially if they were subject to abuse during game #1. These were two varsity officials. Do anyone here really think they would walk out of an assignment over the cost of a hot dog and drink? If they were baseball umpires, we'd call that umpire-bashing.
    3 points
  14. Agreed -- but I think I would point at the plate (with the verbal "safe on the OBS") rather than a safe sign. The former indicates an award (which this is); the latter indicates a play result and could be misinterpreted as a missed tag or the runner beating the tag and lead to some kerfuffle that would need to be diffused.
    3 points
  15. While I endorse your concept, I think the target is wrong. I genuinely think that the All-Star Cobalt Skuly is "Adequate" to "Above Average", as-is. If Team Wendy pad retrofits would really benefit umpire (and catcher) protective equipment, I'd be looking squarely at such products as existing / conventional skullcaps (I call them hardhats), which typically have a token leather band liner and a foam puck at the top, and several HSMs that are woefully under-padded. Additionally, their pads often foul, become brittle, and then either decay or outright fall out (Wilson Shock FX!!!!!). Wilson once again shafted umpires – their primary "exclusive" supplied market in baseball – by not only terminating the Shock FX model, but eliminating any replacement pad sets for it. You'd think they'd have something. 🤔
    3 points
  16. You can get 2 OBS on that play! There's a judgement call OBS as he rounds 3B.
    3 points
  17. No more “shame on me”. They can’t possibly have anything that is worth the aggravation of trying to get them to send me what I paid for. Nope.
    3 points
  18. 0 stitches. All-Star Cobalt skully for the win.
    3 points
  19. Yeah, like that's never happened to any of us.
    3 points
  20. I'll reiterate what others have said ....bolded isn't / shouldn't be your judgement reason .... the play was close, period. Don't give the advantage to the team that faulted. Give R2 home, and it's an easier explanation to the defensive coach than it would be to the offensive coach
    3 points
  21. Ask a nerd! Decently written test, would say only 2-3 were written ambiguously or possibly incorrect unless you understand what the writer was thinking.
    3 points
  22. If you have obstruction and the play is that close at home, you could definitely award him home. I agree with noumpere. He has to be protected to at least 3rd there. But can easily be protected to home. If he's thrown out by 30ft, then thats different.
    3 points
  23. Must be the off season.
    3 points
  24. I guess I'm different ..... Yes, I love baseball, and yes I love to umpire, and, while some of these are truly funny, and I get it, I really do .... it's just not me, meaning, the baseball-umpiring part of my life doesn't find itself entangled in any every day stuff as mentioned above. Like for instance, I'm taking a quick break before my 3pm meeting (yes, some numbskull scheduled a 3pm friday meeting 🙄) but ... It's January, and yes, I have a camp coming up next month that will be fun as it always is, but ...I'm not looking outside at the snow thinking to myself "wow, I wish I had a game today" But that's just me ALL THAT SAID .... You might be an umpire if: For no reason, you drop to your plate stance, pretend a pitch is coming in, and go through your timing and strike mechanic! I'll do that on a rare occasion ...
    3 points
  25. Best topic/discussion in a while…i had 45-ish ncaa games last year and about 25 (most games were DH) different pre-game answers to this scenario. I heard BU has everything (despite cca manual saying otherwise) about 75% of the time I heard PU will take third if BU has to commit to 1st (ball that has no chance at being double play, such as dribbler or muffed ball) about 15% of time I heard exactly as CCA says 10% of the time. Most common reasons to go against the manual: 1) A good BU can get that play at third 2) Mechanics are developed to be in the best position for the most likely play. its #2 that makes me accept that… I probably had 500 balls between college and summer where I watched slide at second and play at first and 1 ball where R1 was not only safe at second but advanced to third on a ball that never left infield. But I think the best answer is the one about reading the situation …I now head towards the mound for slide at second ; if they are safe or no play there, I’ll drift a step or two towards third while preparing to help at first. If he’s out or clearly not advancing, I’ll take a step or two towards first for a better angle on swipe/foot. If overthrown, I hightail it to third, but as I said, that maybe happened once last year
    3 points
  26. This is when a plate coat comes in handy.
    3 points
  27. If I may interject, it's absolutely imperative that a PU "actively processes" this situation instead of reflexively reacts. Both of the above perspectives have merit. The trouble is, amateur umpires either get delinquent or lazy in situations like this; the lazy ones get yelled at, demerited, chastised, or (worse) chalked-up / written-off as lazy. The delinquent ones (good intentions, slow in recognition, reaction, and movement) unfortunately compensate either by over-communicating (again, good intentions) or by... "over-reacting" to the point of heading off to 3B as soon as the ball leaves the bat! You just can't. Say it's a sawn-off drubber at the plate, or a bunt. Not only does PU have Fair/Foul responsibility, but he's the only guy in the entire ballpark that can (properly) judge RLI. If he starts bounding down towards 3B, you can fuhgetaboutit on selling yes/no on potential RLI. Similar can be said about a bounding ball towards F3 and 1B. PU must stay on the line to judge Fair/Foul, and if there's a potential swipe tag coming, or pulled/missed foot by a F1 covering... Point is, that move to 3B may be advised, but it's not automatic.
    3 points
  28. You rush home after work to make sure that you get the latest delivery from Ump-Attire before the wife gets home and see it. Trying to avoid the inevitable "What are you getting now? Don't you already have everything".
    3 points
  29. I’d go with jeans (if you feel comfortable bending and doing plate work in them) or base pants (which look like regular slacks anyway), athletic material quarter zip, base shoes or other athletic shoes. Also wear a hat of some sort so it feels/fits/looks right with the mask on. If it’s just your association’s clinic with mostly classroom stuff outside the plate work, I wouldn’t wear an umpire shirt to it - I think at that point you’ll stand out as the trying too hard new guy.
    2 points
  30. Great question. The answer is "no". From page 39 of the 2019 MLB Umpire Manual, "...if such a play on a previously obstructed runner results in that runner actually being tagged out before reaching the base to which such runner would have been awarded because of the obstruction, the umpire shall in that case call "Time" at the moment the runner is tagged out."
    2 points
  31. They're fine for softball and low-level baseball (14U), but I'd not wear it in a JV or Varsity game. Seen lots of guys really hurting after a foul ball straight back wearing those semi-soft-shell protectors (Pro Nine, Champro). FWIW, I do think the K1 has plates in it though, so it may be a bit safer. I strongly encourage ones to buy a hard-shell CP and wear it for all levels of ball. It's better to be safe and be hot, than to try to go lightweight for whatever reason and end up getting hurt. I wear either my Gold or F3 V3 exclusively no matter what level I'm calling, but I hardly call anything below JV anymore as I have lost patience for parents/parent-coaches and sloppy baseball as I age.
    2 points
  32. Everything else in your post is correct especially that nobody should be looking at F3 at TOP to call a balk.
    2 points
  33. When I've ordered from there in the past I've always sent an email about what I wanted, and when I needed it by. If they couldn't tell me they could do it, I would pass on it.
    2 points
  34. Mr. BLWizzRanger is right—it is a leftover from history. There was no minimum distance rule to build fences away from home plate until 1889 and it has been amended as recently as 1958. From the book The Rules of the Game by Eric Miklich— In the National League in 1884, Ned Williamson of the Chicago White Stockings would hit 27 home runs. Only two were hit away from home, both being hit in Buffalo at Olympic Park. Williamson was a left-handed batter and it has been stated that the right-field fence at Lake Front Park, Chicago's home field, was less than 200 feet from home plate. This was the shortest fence in the league. Buffalo had the second smallest park in the National League. In fact three other White Stockings hit over 20 home runs that season. Chicago hit 142 for the season which was an unheard of number for the time. No team in either the American Association or the Union Association had more than 40. Not until the National League and American Association of Base Ball Club written rules, in 1889, was this issue addressed. The rules stated that any fair ball hit out of the field of play less than 210 feet from home base was only a double. The distance was changed to 235 feet for the 1892 season. Williamson's mark would not be broken until 1919 when Boston Red Sox left fielder and pitcher Babe Ruth would hit 29.
    2 points
  35. Agreed. Unfortunately the search function is very poor, imo.
    2 points
  36. When the wife hits you on the back of the head in the middle of the night to wake you up as she says, "you're not at the ball park, stop umpiring!" (I've been known to loudly call games in my sleep.)
    2 points
  37. What @MidAmUmpsaid is what I hear at different clinics and training sessions..... Tag = left; obstr = left; balk = right. Of course, when I try and replay in my head what *I've* done on obstruction, I got nothing. I also point even if it's an "That's nothing" deal, just to 'seal the deal.' I tend to use the left hand for that as well, but I throw lefty, so that has an influence. The one thing that ALWAYS happens at camps and clinics, is the "oh, lefty huh?" comment when I give my punch-out. I shoot the right hand forward, and the pull the cord with the left. If that stops any advancement, or keeps me out of a gig, so be it - if I tried that move, or just about any right-centric punch-out, I'd punch myself in the face.
    2 points
  38. The rule that tells us that a runner is presumed to have reached a base even though he has not actually touched it is 5.05(b)(3) Comment—in other words the base is his even though he has not legally acquired the base. Rule 5.06(a) tells us that a runner acquires the legal right to a base when he touches it before he is out. 2021 OBR Rule 5.05(b)(3) Comment: If catcher’s interference is called with a play in progress the umpire will allow the play to continue because the manager may elect to take the play. If the batter-runner missed first base, or a runner misses his next base, he shall be considered as having reached the base, as stated in Note of Rule 5.06(b)(3)(D). And for high school the following interpretation can be found in the 2016 BRD (section 362, p. 242): FED Official Interpretation: Hopkins: If BR misses first but beats the throw, he is “considered safe” and the umpire should so signal. If the defense appeals, the umpire will reverse his call. 2015 NFHS Baseball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 20: The batter hits the ball to the shortstop who bobbles the ball and throws late to first base. The batter-runner beats the throw but does not touch first base. RULING: The runner beats the ball on the play and is considered to be safe. The defense must appeal the missed base or tag the batter-runner before he returns to first in order to have the out declared for the missed base. (8-2-1 Penalty)
    2 points
  39. I understand the logic if R2 stopped at third and you had to decide whether to award home -- in your judgement / viewing he would not have reached home. We are allowed to consider post obstruction evidence to help with the decision -- and in the OP we have it.
    2 points
  40. come on BT-Blue--Big 10 D1 (conference ranked, RPI 11, out of 31 d1 conferences), so i know they will not see you, for one of your personal d1 conference games (there's the cheapshot, if you do not work d1 out there) even when they go west, or so it says from googling. hey maybe postseason by 2050 if you are still working.
    2 points
  41. I've been taught the inverse - I should only get an out if I'm 100% sure he would have been out, had the obstruction not occurred. Since the defense erred, benefit of the doubt goes to the offense. Since (as you say) there's a very reasonable chance he would have been safe, absent the obstruction, I have him safe.
    2 points
  42. If R2 was slowed down by more than the amount he was thrown out, then you should award him home. If he was thrown out by more than he was slowed down, then the out stands.
    2 points
  43. Sorry guys, I work at Amazon so I just got off 60 hour weeks and lost track of time. Here are my thoughts though. Out of the box it is extremely similar to the WV gold. In all, if you want a cheap option with good protection this one is up there. It comes with the standard harness that should be thrown away on arrival. A flex harness really improves this CP and I think it will live in my car during the HS season for a couple reasons. 1. I don’t have a garage so if my car gets broken into I won’t cry if it gets stolen like I would if one of my frankensteins was stolen. 2. The fit is good enough to look presentable at a game. So the first picture is of me in a WV gold TW. Second picture is a regular Gold and third is the champro. So there is of course quite a difference in profile but for me the trade off is worth it. I now have a complete that I’m not worried about losing. As far as differences go, the champro has a larger shoulder pad and utilizes the WV platinum style gap protection. It is wider and flatter than the WV gold as well. I purchased the medium. Otherwise it is very similar and I think is a good CP. I think this would work fine for pretty much anyone. I might like it more than my champion too and am happier with it than my Cobalt.
    2 points
  44. It is imperative that on field communication is clear between partners. As we all know, a pregame is great, but when an Oh sh*t moment arises we all need to be on the same page
    2 points
  45. Or, on a batted ball .... if the ball doesn't leave the infield, you (BU) have all plays at the bases.
    2 points
  46. I was taught and use my right hand for almost everything. Calling obstruction/interference/balks/awarding bases with my right hand. For instance, point with right hand and verbalize, "that's obstruction." Award bases, if any, with right hand. Similar mechanic in other situations as PU or BU. Often times as a PU, I won't point to the balk as my initial call. I will just verbalize, "that's a balk." Then take appropriate actions as necessary. If the pitcher for instance, rolls through his stop and delivers a pitch, you have to stay down and be ready, particularly when balks are live. Can't really come up and point. Just verbalize it. Exception is on a check swing appeal. As PU, I'll gesture to my partner with my left hand open while asking, "Name", did he go.
    2 points
  47. You can't watch baseball with your family on tv, because you have to constantly remind them that the box is wrong and most announcers are brainlets when it comes to rules.
    2 points
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