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  2. I carry no less than two, and sometimes up to four, masks with me to every game venue I work. My main pads are TWs (I have 3 sets), but I also use All-Star MAG-LUCs on my FM4000, and navy LUCs on my (lone, thank goodness) rarely-used Navy mask (for when I call games in those states east of the Mississippi River, American Legion, or CDP). So, not only do I color-coordinate, I also temperature-coordinate, to a certain degree (ha! pun!). Cold temps? I use the LUC -equipped masks. Normal or hot weather? TWs is where it’s at. Consider, too, that if you wash TWs on a routine basis, and allow them to air dry, they’ll stay softer. The buildup of salt, from your sweat, actually stiffens the pads.
  3. That’s gotta end. Not only is that way too much to say at the Plate Meeting, but it’s being said wrong, in a way that will open a Pandora’s Box of Pain and Misery. “we want to get the calls right” – according to coaches, you never will, and some coaches think you’re out to get them, and that you’re lying ”so if you have a question” – don’t give them this possibility; it’s like giving an open jar of paint to a kindergartner and saying, “Now, don’t touch that until we say so”. ”call time” – NO. Coaches and players are to ask for Time. Only an umpire can call Time. ”tell me what you saw” – No to this too. What they saw will nearly always be something different than what the umpires actually saw. ”I’ll get together with my partner” – We (Umpires) are not at their (coaches and other participants) beckon call. The majority of calls that bring a coach out to question do not need or involve another umpire. By mentioning this, you’re giving that coach the fallacy that they can beseech the calling umpire to consult his/her partner and (hopefully, to them) overturn the call or introduce doubt.
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  5. For me the best all around in all weather plus good protection has been the all star LUC pads and the Honings pads.
  6. My only criticism is granting time while the play was still in progress. You said the runner on third started back towards second when the defensive coach asked for time and you granted it. Probably should have held up the hand (stop sign) and waited till the runner got back to second, returned to third, was tagged out, whatever. Once the play was over you grant the coach time. I agree that it you were 100% sure of your call then don't ask for help.
  7. This. We had a coach complain about it, with a new pitcher. PU allowed the glasses. During the first pitch, he called no pitch and had them removed. A brief flash was enough to make it distracting.
  8. Well, TWs work fine for me in the cold. Anyhow, the Wilson Memory Foam pads work very well in cooler weather. Lots of guys on here like to use leather pads in the spring and then shift to TWs in the summer.
  9. Hey...wait a minute...I don't think that was a compliment.
  10. Runner on first, pitcher throws a Wild Pitch, runner advances to second. Is it a Stolen Base - No. Batter at the plate. Pitcher throws a Wild Pitch, batter runs to first. Why is it a Stolen Base? They changed the rule but didn't think about the ramifications of how to score it! Hopefully they will issue guidance on how all of this should be scored.
  11. 1. I have Baseball Umpiring Mechanics Illustrated published by Referee magazine that my state (Kansas) mailed me for 2 and 3 man high school crews. I've learned a lot since getting affiliated with the state. I obviously need to keep reading the stuff they've sent me so hopefully something like this doesn't happen again. I've always done my best and haven't had any big problems until now. 2. I probably won't reply. I feel like he's the type of guy that wouldn't care if I said I was sorry and that it was my fault. He would just say something like damn right it's your fault, now leave me alone. I already said I don't want to talk to you. If I see him in the future after he's had time to cool off I'll apologize, but if he's still a dick about it then I'll just let it go and not talk to him again. I felt like he was pretty full of himself from the moment we met in the parking lot. Wore aviator sunglasses the whole game, which I haven't seen someone do yet. Might have been a rock star, who knows. 3. You're right. I definitely watch the game differently now and focus more on the umpires than the game sometimes. 4. I would love to attend a GOOD 2-man camp. I drove 3 hours to do an 8 hour class that my state put on for guys with 0-5 years experience but it was an okay class at best. We didn't really do much and most of it was explaining the absolute basics to guys who were totally new. Umpiring isn't something taken too seriously here because the majority of it is smaller size towns that can barely put a team together. I'm lucky if I'm able to work with a guy who even shows up looking like an umpire and not wearing black work boots with a striped football referee hat and an old raggedy brown leather belt. The Mid-American Umpire clinic they're doing this year in Springfield would probably be good, but I might have to wait a year before trying that. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Hopefully I can work with guys more like you in the future.
  12. Calling the ball does not necessarily mean that fielder is protected - it is the ump's judgment to who was more likely to make the play. He could in fact rule the pitcher was the most likely to make the play.
  13. Lou B


    Score the run. Punish Stupidity.
  14. I'm not a huge fan of that even, but that's a lot different from asking a coach outright if they want you to appeal to your partner. To each there own though.
  15. I do that @Aging_Arbiter just because I know you can't see GIF's.
  16. My random thoughts: (1) You need to invest in a good mechanics book. In your case, I recommend purchasing the "Minor League Baseball Manual for the Two-Umpire System". There are several mechanics books out there. Many will recommend the CCA (college) Manual. The CCA Manual is great if you're looking for a book with easy-to-digest diagrams that show you where to start and where to go when the ball is put in play. And, in fact, I do use that manual when I'm looking to refresh myself on rotations, etc. The Minor League Manual, however, covers a lot of stuff that the CCA Manual does not discuss, including check swings. As the MiLB Manual states, "PU may ask BU on his own for help on a check swing if in doubt." And, there is absolutely no restriction on asking the base umpire for help when the base umpire is in "B" or "C". In fact, the PU must ask the BU for help (no matter what position the BU is in) if the PU rules that that the batter did not swing and the defensive manager/coach wants an appeal. The bottom line is that it appears that you need to learn more some two-man advanced mechanics. (2) You stated that you're young and just moving up to the varsity level. As such, if we were together and you made this mistake, we would have had a long talk after the game with a goal of making you better (and not a goal of humiliating you). With that said, your partner did not do that. I don't know what his experience level is, nor do I know what his "place" is in your association. I would likely text him back and apologize and say that "you're still trying to learn". (As stated above, don't add any qualifiers to your apology other than to say "I'm learning".) With that said, I wouldn't do much more. Clearly, he's not interested in making you a better umpire. (3) You wrote in a post above, "but in all my years of playing and watching baseball from little league through HS and up until now I honestly haven't seen a PU appeal to a guy in B or C." The likely reason that this is the case is because "in all (those) years," you were watching the game as a player and not as an umpire. I'm willing to bet that at some point in your playing career (or during some game you watched as a fan) that this type of appeal did, in fact, occur. You just didn't notice because you weren't watching the game as an umpire. You need to make sure from now on that you are watching games as an umpire (assuming that you are no longer still playing at some level). In short, your experiences as a player don't mean SH*# as an umpire. In fact, being a former player (especially if you played at a high level) can be a hindrance to being a good umpire. The reason is that as a player you are trained to watch developing plays during the game in a certain way. As an umpire, you need to watch the game in a completely different manner. Frankly, when I have guy call me asking to join our high school association I always ask , "what experience do you have". When they respond with, "well, I played all the way through college," I respond with, "so, you have no experience". [As an aside: I then work to get them in an umpire camp and working local youth leagues.] In short, your experiences as a player don't really matter anymore. (4) Use this as a learning experience. But make it a "Big" learning experience and not a "small" learning experience. A small learning experience is if you walk away saying only, "now I know that if the plate umpire appeals to me on a check swing when I'm in "B" or "C", I need to give him what I've got." That's fine...but I challenge you to reach for a bigger learning experience. A "Big" learning experience will have you walking away saying to yourself, "what other 2-man mechanics have I not picked up over my seven years of umpiring? I need to get into a detailed mechanics book and really break down my mechanics. Or, maybe, I need to attend a good 2-man mechanics camp." Good Luck to you!
  17. I never have a problem asking for an appeal. In fact, in the youth tourneys around here, most of the time PU brings it up at the plate conference "we want to get the calls right so if you have a question, call time, tell me what you saw and I'll get together with my partner."
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    Pitchers and Sunglasses

    I'm sure we will talk about this again at our district meeting after the state tournament is completed. I appreciate all of your responses which have reinforced my interpretation of this. As agdz59 said, in most cases we don't even worry about it unless someone complains, but when the situation arises you want to make the correct call. Thanks again.
  19. So I am fairly new to umpiring and am looking at getting a nice lightweight mask setup. I've read that the TW are not good in cold weather. I live on the wet coast of Washington where baseball season is usually anywhere from 45 to 75. What would be a good all around pad or do you guys swap pads out for the weather?
  20. Glad you said this before me. Don't we need all the help we can get out there? Why not use it as a teachable moment? Which brings up a question - is it common for associations to have formal or informal black lists of umps they won't use? If you have a personal blacklist do you regularly turn down gigs because of it or is there a place in your scheduling software that allows you to make your blacklist known?
  21. I will amend my answer above by stating that I don't now much about LL specific rules -- I only worked a handful of LL official games in my career.
  22. That "determination" should have been further protested up the chain.
  23. In LL, I've had pitchers remove their sunglasses if we at the plate were getting reflections. Otherwise, I haven't worried about it.
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    Pitchers and Sunglasses

    This is for Little League. We had a controversy and it was determined by a league director that since there was no specific rule the pitcher was allowed to wear reflective sunglasses. I've always applied what noumpere has stated and then additionally applied rule 9.03(c); "Each umpire has the authority to rule on any point not specifically covered by these rules." Thanks.
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