Catch or No Catch - Frazier Pulls a Fast One

[stkjock]

Dramatic play turns out to be a trick.   

 

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/todd-frazier-tricked-umpires-with-rubber-ball/c-293382054

 

 

[Mudisfun]

hey... as an old coach once told me:

"If you're not cheating, your not trying."

[beerguy55]

The video evidence is pretty slim.   That ball the fan picks up could easily have been the ball that came out of the green bag.

[stkjock]

Frazier apparently admitted it .

 

https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/watch-the-truth-behind-mets-3b-todd-fraziers-catch/293371212

[LMSANS]

Exactly the kind of thing he would have learned in his youth.

1 hour ago, Mudisfun said:

hey... as an old coach once told me:

"If you're not cheating, your not trying."

Personally, he loses a lot of points in my book if he knowingly cheated.

 

[LMSANS]

1 hour ago, stkjock said:

Frazier apparently admitted it .

 

https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/watch-the-truth-behind-mets-3b-todd-fraziers-catch/293371212

I don't read lips, but I don't see any admission of guilt here.

[stkjock]

27 minutes ago, LMSANS said:

I don't read lips, but I don't see any admission of guilt here.

he didn't on camera, however, I thought Gelbs said he had in his reporting.

[beerguy55]

1 hour ago, stkjock said:

he didn't on camera, however, I thought Gelbs said he had in his reporting.

Nope.   The only "evidence" is what is shown in that video....and a helluva lot of inference from Gelbs.   Sounds like a desperate attempt at attention whoring by Gelbs.

[LMSANS]

1 hour ago, beerguy55 said:

Nope.   The only "evidence" is what is shown in that video....and a helluva lot of inference from Gelbs.   Sounds like a desperate attempt at attention whoring by Gelbs.

Not someone in the media!

[stkjock]

3 hours ago, beerguy55 said:

Nope.   The only "evidence" is what is shown in that video....and a helluva lot of inference from Gelbs.   Sounds like a desperate attempt at attention whoring by Gelbs.

Or maybe since he travels with the team he and Frazier discussed it.....  

 

and Gil buys it. 

 

https://www.closecallsports.com/2018/09/replay-rewind-hollywood-magic-at-dodger.html

[stkjock]

@beerguy55 @LMSANS

 

maybe this is enough?

 

 

[beerguy55]

12 hours ago, stkjock said:

maybe this is enough?

Yeah, I'd say that clinches it.  

But to Gil's article - there's no way this would have been overturned on replay review - the in game video is not at all conclusive....yeah, it shows two balls, but no video to which ball the fan picked up and which ball Frazier picked up...let alone the video doesn't show Frazier dropping or picking up any ball.   The video just shows that the fan has a ball and Frazier has a ball.

[noumpere]

I wonder if MLB will fine / suspend / admonish for the admission of cheating.  (Less likely now that if he admitted picking up the wrong ball.)

[Tborze]

How did the Dodger fans not see it and rat him out?

 

[Mudisfun]

58 minutes ago, Tborze said:

How did the Dodger fans not see it and rat him out?

 

That's not how we roll!

[stkjock]

1 hour ago, Tborze said:

How did the Dodger fans not see it and rat him out?

 

because they don't show up until the 7th inning 

[Mudisfun]

On 9/6/2018 at 9:59 AM, stkjock said:

because they don't show up until the 7th inning 

As a Mets fan, I would think you would understand the concept of traffic! All you need is the #7 train to break down and there goes your fans getting to Citi field on time!

Try sitting on the 110, 5, 2 or any other litany of streets in the LA area and try and get anywhere before 8:30pm!

 

[stkjock]

It’s not the tragic that has the fans show up in the 7th

 

we have the LIRR and two highways that feed Citifield as well :p 

[TheRockawayKid]

On 9/7/2018 at 5:10 PM, Mudisfun said:

As a Mets fan, I would think you would understand the concept of traffic! All you need is the #7 train to break down and there goes your fans getting to Citi field on time!

Try sitting on the 110, 5, 2 or any other litany of streets in the LA area and try and get anywhere before 8:30pm!

  

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Clearly you have not been commuting in New York City any time in the past two years or so.

[Mudisfun]

Last year... but who is counting. I do not live there, so not getting in to a argument on whose traffic sucks worse. It just sucks all around :-)