umpstu 936 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 Your choice between an All Star magnesium mask, a Champro Rampage Magnesium or the All Star titanium mask? I have seen good prices on all of them from distributors I trust. Help me out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boyinr 267 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 I am partial to the FM25TI. Never had an issue with the double bars. I have had mine for many years and the frame is still like new. Loaded with LMX pads. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd181612 33 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 I like the look of the All-Star Mag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stk004 713 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, sd181612 said: I like the look of the All-Star Mag. I like the feel of the All-Star Mag 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tpatience 300 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stk004 said: I like the feel of the All-Star Mag Aren’t you special? Basically stole that mask 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
umpstu 936 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, Stk004 said: I like the feel of the All-Star Mag So have you worn this one and what makes it so good in your opinion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grk17 34 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Stk004 said: I like the feel of the All-Star Mag I got the chance to test drive the All Star Mag from a buddy of mine. Let me just second the fact that it feels amazing. The price however does not make you feel amazing 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderheads 2,545 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 11 hours ago, umpstu said: Your choice between an All Star magnesium mask, a Champro Rampage Magnesium or the All Star titanium mask? I have seen good prices on all of them from distributors I trust. Help me out. as Roger said, the All Star FM25Ti (or standard) double bar is not a problem because of the iBar flat frame in front. It's a great piece, a real workhorse. I had one for 8 years before finally taking a foul ball of the front and bending it (one of many hits over the years). The Rampage looks, good, and so does the FM4000 MAG. Remember, All Star tests their own masks with their own air-cannon at 90-100mph ... no one else in the industry does that! I know for sure, that I myself will be getting new MAG pads for my FM4000 standard (yes they fit) and guess what gentlemen ..... the come in 'graphite'! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grk17 34 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Thunderheads said: as Roger said, the All Star FM25Ti (or standard) double bar is not a problem because of the iBar flat frame in front. It's a great piece, a real workhorse. I had one for 8 years before finally taking a foul ball of the front and bending it (one of many hits over the years). The Rampage looks, good, and so does the FM4000 MAG. Remember, All Star tests their own masks with their own air-cannon at 90-100mph ... no one else in the industry does that! I know for sure, that I myself will be getting new MAG pads for my FM4000 standard (yes they fit) and guess what gentlemen ..... the come in 'graphite'! I can’t seem to find where replacement mag pads are sold. I can’t find them on All-Star’s website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderheads 2,545 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, grk17 said: I can’t seem to find where replacement mag pads are sold. I can’t find them on All-Star’s website. SORRY! You are correct, .... they're not online yet but they're working on it ....you can call them however and get them. PFM4000MAG 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
umpstu 936 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 12 hours ago, grk17 said: I got the chance to test drive the All Star Mag from a buddy of mine. Let me just second the fact that it feels amazing. The price however does not make you feel amazing When you say test drive, did you use one in a game or did you just try one on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stk004 713 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, Thunderheads said: SORRY! You are correct, .... they're not online yet but they're working on it ....you can call them however and get them. PFM4000MAG Any idea how much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderheads 2,545 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stk004 said: Any idea how much? PM SENT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfe_man 287 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 Does anyone know when the black FM4000 mag will be available? I see the MLB umps with it, but don't see available to us yet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd181612 33 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Thunderheads said: SORRY! You are correct, .... they're not online yet but they're working on it ....you can call them however and get them. PFM4000MAG Do you mean these ones??!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grk17 34 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 2 hours ago, umpstu said: When you say test drive, did you use one in a game or did you just try one on? I actually got to use it in a game. I umpired a high school JV game with my friend who had one and he let me use it for my game on the plate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderheads 2,545 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 Do you mean these ones??!!! Those!!!!Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd181612 33 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Thunderheads said: Those!!!! Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk *Heart skips a beat* Thanks @Thunderheads 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd181612 33 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 2 hours ago, wolfe_man said: Does anyone know when the black FM4000 mag will be available? I see the MLB umps with it, but don't see available to us yet. I reached out to All-Star again, and they said that they were in talks with the factory and should have them in stock by September. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
umpstu 936 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 44 minutes ago, grk17 said: I actually got to use it in a game. I umpired a high school JV game with my friend who had one and he let me use it for my game on the plate Give me a review on sight lines, etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grk17 34 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, umpstu said: Give me a review on sight lines, etc? The sight lines are surprisingly good given the thickness of the bars. As @Stk004 illustrated for all of us with his pics in a different thread on here, the bars are somewhat thick, especially if you’re used to wearing titanium. However, All-Star has dang near perfected the art of bar shaping, crafting the bars in a way that improves sight lines when looking through the mask and illuding your brain into thinking that the bars are not so thick. (regarding their experience with I-bar tech). Thus, the sight lines are very good once you get used to this. Additionally, the eye port is perfectly positioned so as to create an optimal sight line. So to answer your question about sight lines, I never had an issue with them. We have all heard about how light the mask is and how comfy the pads are so I’ll just leave those topics be. In conclusion, I was extremely satisfied with the mask and I’m so glad my friend was generous enough to let me try it out in the JV game we worked together. I just wish it wasn’t so gosh darn expensive or I’d buy one in a heartbeat. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
umpstu 936 Report post Posted July 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, grk17 said: The sight lines are surprisingly good given the thickness of the bars. As @Stk004 illustrated for all of us with his pics in a different thread on here, the bars are somewhat thick, especially if you’re used to wearing titanium. However, All-Star has dang near perfected the art of bar shaping, crafting the bars in a way that improves sight lines when looking through the mask and illuding your brain into thinking that the bars are not so thick. (regarding their experience with I-bar tech). Thus, the sight lines are very good once you get used to this. Additionally, the eye port is perfectly positioned so as to create an optimal sight line. So to answer your question about sight lines, I never had an issue with them. We have all heard about how light the mask is and how comfy the pads are so I’ll just leave those topics be. In conclusion, I was extremely satisfied with the mask and I’m so glad my friend was generous enough to let me try it out in the JV game we worked together. I just wish it wasn’t so gosh darn expensive or I’d buy one in a heartbeat. Thanks for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boyinr 267 Report post Posted July 13, 2018 5 hours ago, grk17 said: I actually got to use it in a game. I umpired a high school JV game with my friend who had one and he let me use it for my game on the plate That's a really good friend. Could you wear a 6 stitch cap with it? That's my only complaint with the steel version of the FM4000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grk17 34 Report post Posted July 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, boyinr said: That's a really good friend. Could you wear a 6 stitch cap with it? That's my only complaint with the steel version of the FM4000. I actually couldn’t wear a 6 stitch with the stock all star top pad, at least not comfortably anyway. I actually replaced the top pad with a black TW pad that I had from another mask so as to create enough standoff distance to get a 6 stitch cap under there (I don’t even own a 4 stitch hat). That is one downside to the mask. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stk004 713 Report post Posted July 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, grk17 said: I actually couldn’t wear a 6 stitch with the stock all star top pad, at least not comfortably anyway. I actually replaced the top pad with a black TW pad that I had from another mask so as to create enough standoff distance to get a 6 stitch cap under there (I don’t even own a 4 stitch hat). That is one downside to the mask. I'm glad the TW suggestion worked. When I put a memory foam pad on top the 6 stitch was feasible. Building off your point of a 6-stitch not being comfortable, it's not that it doesn't fit, it's just that I don't want the brim of my hat up against the bar. I don't even notice the thickness of the bars anymore, but it probably took two innings my first game to adjust to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
