Jump to content

Remove these ads by becoming a Premium Member
Sign in to follow this  
zoops

Simulating Delivery & Disengagement

Recommended Posts

Had an American Legion game a few days ago where a RHP with R1, after coming set, lifted his right leg and disengaged the rubber with a high leg kick in the same manner that he would normally lift his left leg to start his delivery.  OC put up a mild protestation that it should be a balk.  Thoughts?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Remove these ads by becoming a Premium Member

To start with - did he step forward or backward to disengage ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Ump29 said:

To start with - did he step forward or backward to disengage ?

Backward.  There was no issue there; only possible argument is that the leg kick looked the same, albeit backward.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

absent nothing else, like arm movements associated with starting a motion, sounds like nothing....are they really fooled by the back leg coming up? If so, they have bigger problems than not getting a balk call.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No rule dictates the manner in which F1 must step backward, only that it be a step directly backward and land behind the rubber.

I've seen this too, and been asked about it. Most coaches would say: once that pivot moves, their runners better be getting back to their bases. Whether it moves up and does the hokey pokey or whatever is irrelevant.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A fairly common balk is when a pitcher buckles the back knee. As described in the OP, it is hard to imagine the back leg being raised in a simulated pitching motion without first buckling the knee--

From the 2013 Wendelstedt Rules Interpretation Manual (p. 102):

The pitcher, while touching his plate, makes a motion naturally associated with his pitch, and fails to complete his delivery. The pitcher bends his back knee (he broke his knee) in an attempt to simulate his pitching motion, and then throws to a base in an attempt to pick off a runner [6.02(a)(1)].

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/6/2018 at 9:39 PM, Senor Azul said:

A fairly common balk is when a pitcher buckles the back knee. As described in the OP, it is hard to imagine the back leg being raised in a simulated pitching motion without first buckling the knee--

From the 2013 Wendelstedt Rules Interpretation Manual (p. 102):

The pitcher, while touching his plate, makes a motion naturally associated with his pitch, and fails to complete his delivery. The pitcher bends his back knee (he broke his knee) in an attempt to simulate his pitching motion, and then throws to a base in an attempt to pick off a runner [6.02(a)(1)].

How does F1 disengage from the rubber if he doesn't bend his "back" knee ? 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

From the 2010 Jaksa/Roder manual (p. 143):

It is a balk if a pitcher—

Fails to disengage the rubber properly… A pitcher can disengage properly only if he steps his pivot foot onto the ground backward of and off the pitching rubber. He must do so without interruption or hesitation, and without a movement normally associated with his motion to pitch.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

×