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On 10/4/2018 at 3:52 PM, Minnz said:

NFHS could make life so much easier by just saying the CCA manual applies to us as well. They pretend that a) rotation signals in 3/4 man don't exist b) most good umpires already have a signal (removeal of hat) when they have helpful information on a play for their partner.

Maybe next round they will also give us a super secret drop third strike catch/no catch signal we can all use.  Oh wait...

Too many members on the committee are opposed to using the mechanics set forth in the CCA Manual.  I am not going to tell you their reasons, as I don't speak for them.  But adoption of the CCA will not happen anytime soon.

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11 hours ago, lawump said:

Too many members on the committee are opposed to using the mechanics set forth in the CCA Manual.  I am not going to tell you their reasons, as I don't speak for them.  But adoption of the CCA will not happen anytime soon.

Is it because of "we don't want to be like college" snobbism, or because they are not aware of good umpiring practice? I don't know how many NFHS rules committee members umpire, especially at the college level, so I can't infer that the committee members know either NFHS or CCA mechanics. 

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7 hours ago, ilyazhito said:

Is it because of "we don't want to be like college" snobbism, or because they are not aware of good umpiring practice? I don't know how many NFHS rules committee members umpire, especially at the college level, so I can't infer that the committee members know either NFHS or CCA mechanics. 

Neither one. NCAA mechanics in all sports are designed around a more complex rule set and have more exceptions and more elaborate mechanics.

NFHS has vastly more officials than NCAA, many of whom have little or no "professional" instruction, and many of whom have rather limited mobility. A mechanic might be "good umpiring practice" for fit individuals with proper training, but not feasible for many FED umpires. Part of the objective of FED mechanics is to simplify, simplify, simplify (this priority is probably second only to safety).

As baseball is a complex game, simplification is possible only to a certain extent. Compromises are made. But it is possible to be simpler than CCA mechanics and still have a reasonable set.

My state has its own mechanics manual that's neither FED nor CCA nor MLB. So that's fun, too.

If the mechanics are intolerable to people, then they should not work the games that impose those mechanics. Nobody but umpires ever cared who takes the BR into 3B. I never quite understood the outrage surrounding this issue.

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6 hours ago, maven said:

But it is possible to be simpler than CCA mechanics and still have a reasonable set.

My state has its own mechanics manual that's neither FED nor CCA nor MLB. So that's fun, too.

Both states I have worked in my area have done the same. They are based off of CCA. But have some major differences to them. Especially when you start getting into 3 and 4 man mechanics (Washington in particular). Oregon calls it "Oregon Modified Mechanics Manual" while Washington simply refers to it as the "Washington State Mechanics Manual."

Thankfully, they are close enough to CCA that it is not distracting and can be moved closer or further away depending on what the Crew Cheif for that game wants to do.

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On 10/12/2018 at 2:31 AM, ilyazhito said:

Is it because of "we don't want to be like college" snobbism, or because they are not aware of good umpiring practice? I don't know how many NFHS rules committee members umpire, especially at the college level, so I can't infer that the committee members know either NFHS or CCA mechanics. 

There were approximately 105,000 individuals who umpired at least one FED game in the United States in 2015.  The difference between the top NFHS umpire and the worst NFHS umpire is greater than at probably any other level of baseball.  We have to account for that.  Do I personally fight to adopt mechanics that look more like CCA?  Yes.  Do I understand other committee members' arguments that we need something different than CCA to account for the disparity in umpiring quality we have in NFHS from one umpire to another (including physical limitations)?  While I don't always agree...I understand their arguments and rationale.  

While this has certainly not been the case over the years, over the last three years, we've have numerous umpires on the committee...including a former AAA umpire (who worked NL regular season games), another former MiLB umpire, and several college umpires.  All of whom also work FED, too...as either umpires or administrators.  Several of these committee members with impressive umpiring resumes believe NFHS mechanics should not be CCA mechanics.

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Would the committee be open to "the standard NFHS mechanic is xxx, but if the crew agrees, it can be yyy"?

 

I do recognize that it can be dangerous to agree to change something because muscle memory can interfere or people can be on different pages, but certainly there are a couple of changes that should be easy to implement by crew adoption.

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17 hours ago, noumpere said:

Would the committee be open to "the standard NFHS mechanic is xxx, but if the crew agrees, it can be yyy"?

 

No.  States are free to adopt their own mechanics without incurring any penalty (unlike rules)...so we see no need.  I would bring it up in your local association.

BTW, while I'm on the committee...I'm also the director of training and education for my association...and we use the MiLB 2-man mechanics.  (Which, now, is almost identical to CCA.)

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