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Batter Time Out, Pitcher Set
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14U tournament, OBR with a few moderations unrelated to this situation. Top 7, visiting team down a run, R2, 2 out. 1-1 count:
F1 comes set while the batter has one foot in the box, right hand raised for time. Umpire raises his left hand, palm to F1. Pitcher is looking at R2, I don't think he fully sees the situation. Batter brings his front foot in, digs in as he lowers his right hand to the bat, umpire lowers his hand as F1 delivers the ball - the effect being the batter has just gotten his right hand on the bat (hes a RHB) as the ball is delivered. PU calls strike 2 (it was, right down the middle). Batter is stunned; F1 looks apologetically at batter and pats his chest, as if to say "my bad". Batter offers a mild protest, PU is unmoved.
Questions - first, is the umpire raising his left hand, palm to F1, truly a time out? Is it a dead ball situation? Or is it, as I sometimes feel its treated, a special 'mini time out' that's really just a pause for the batters sake?
If it's the former, does F1 have to disengage and re-set?
Would you see this as just the 1 time in a thousand that the timing is off, nothing can be done, just one of those things? This seemed to be the consensus after I had a very nice conversation with both umpires after the following game - we played back-to-back games, this was the last batter in the first game (he ended up lining out to F9 on the 1-2 pitch) so I waited until after the second because I wanted it to be what it was, just me trying to understand what happened, what the batter could have done differently, etc. Only suggestion was to have him keep his hand up until every other part of him was fully set, then get his hand right to the bat (makes sense, I guess he was more casual than he should have been). I was super appreciative that they took the time to speak to me.
Would you have handled it any differently?
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umpstu
Good discussion. I've yet to experience a pitcher throwing a pitch when I've had my hand up. I've had some less experienced ones start to, but I've shut it down.
Senor Azul
Mr. Richvee, the OP said his game was played under OBR rules with a few modifications (or moderations). So I answered with OBR interpretations. But OBR differs from NCAA and FED. Those two codes actua
Richvee
Understood. Like you say, I'm not thinking about the seasoned pitchers in this sitch. I'm thinking more about the ones who are going to try to throw a pitch the second the batter puts his foot back in
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