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runner on 3rd, pass ball the runners heads home, catcher gets the ball throws it to the pitcher who is covering home plate. Pitcher makes tag, ball leaves his glove and gets lodged between his elbow and side of his body, pitcher then takes ball from where it is sitting and show the umpire, umpire calls the runner out, is this the right call?

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Nope.  I've made worse, but that call was wrong as described.  Keep calling them until you get them right...for the right reasons.       

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MLB Rules:

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A TAG is the action of a fielder in touching a base with his body while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove; or touching a runner with the ball, or with his hand or glove holding the ball (not including hanging laces alone), while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove. It is not a tag, however, if simultaneously or immediately following his touching a base or touching a runner, the fielder drops the ball. In establishing the validity of the tag, the fielder shall hold the ball long enough to prove that he has complete control of the ball. If the fielder has made a tag and drops the ball while in the act of making a throw following the tag, the tag shall be adjudged to have been made.

It sure doesn't sound like the pitcher held the ball "securely and firmly in his hand or glove...long enough to prove that he has complete control of the ball."

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15 hours ago, CJK said:

MLB Rules:

It sure doesn't sound like the pitcher held the ball "securely and firmly in his hand or glove...long enough to prove that he has complete control of the ball."

That's the key phrase -- another one that's often forgotten as people just focus on "held"

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