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Dropped 3rd strike less then 2 outs


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Runner is attempting to steel 2nd at the time of the dropped 3rd strike and batter runs to 1st with less than 2 outs. Isn't 1st base considered occupied if there was a runner on 1st at the start of the pitch?

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3 minutes ago, Guest Ryan S said:

Runner is attempting to steel 2nd at the time of the dropped 3rd strike and batter runs to 1st with less than 2 outs. Isn't 1st base considered occupied if there was a runner on 1st at the start of the pitch?

Yes - however, there is (virtually) nothing illegal in the batter running to first.  He's out at the time of strike three (or should be), and it's up to the catcher to know that, and either try to get the runner stealing second or hold the ball.

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This move is often coached in order to draw a throw from the defense playing on an already retired batter instead of trying to get R1 stealing. With younger players, R1 will sometimes try for 3B as the defense figures out what just happened (and depending on how long it takes F2 to retrieve the pitch).

We can mentally prepare ourselves for this play by reviewing the situation each time a batter gets to 2 strikes: what can happen if F2 fails to catch the next strike? Where it matters, I will sometimes remind F2, "he's out," or more often, "Yes he did [which gives me a reason to say anything at all], he's out." This is an exception to the rule that we don't say "strike 3, batter's out!"

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And if the offense were successful in "showing up the defense," be prepared for retaliation by the defensive team.  It may come as soon as the next pitch.  Sometimes soothing words whispered to the juked catcher ("Don't do anything stupid, Nimrod, even if your coach tells you to.") may head off inappropriate behavior at the HS level and below.  (Just joking about the choice of guiding words.  I'm sure you each could come up with something better.)   

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