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3-man, R2 vs R2-R3 -- slide or no?

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In 3-man, with R2 or R2-R3, U1 goes back to "A" with 2 outs.

In the 2017 CCA manual, there are two different mechanics for a clean base hit in these two situations. With just R2, the book (pg 166) shows it as a slide (reverse rotation, push, whatever you call it) where U1 comes inside and takes the batter-runner into 2nd, and U3 has plays at 3rd. But for R2-R3, page 175 shows it as U1 staying at 1st, U3 staying at 2nd to take plays on the BR there, with the caveat that it can be a slide "by conference adoption".

Any insight on why the book shows two different mechanics on essentially the same play? And which do you think is the better approach?

The slide makes more sense to me, as U1 has a whole bunch of nothing to do if U3 takes the BR into 2nd. Then, if there is a misplay at 2nd on the BR, U3 now has to try and beat the BR to 3rd for any subsequent plays. With the slide, U1 can easily take the play on the BR at 2nd, and U3 is there at 3rd waiting if something blows up.

Thoughts?

 

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We reverse rotate with R2 only, and with R2/R3. U1 is man-to-man with the BR to second base in both cases. 

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On 10/4/2017 at 2:19 PM, jms1425 said:

In 3-man, with R2 or R2-R3, U1 goes back to "A" with 2 outs.

In the 2017 CCA manual, there are two different mechanics for a clean base hit in these two situations. With just R2, the book (pg 166) shows it as a slide (reverse rotation, push, whatever you call it) where U1 comes inside and takes the batter-runner into 2nd, and U3 has plays at 3rd. But for R2-R3, page 175 shows it as U1 staying at 1st, U3 staying at 2nd to take plays on the BR there, with the caveat that it can be a slide "by conference adoption".

Any insight on why the book shows two different mechanics on essentially the same play? And which do you think is the better approach?

The slide makes more sense to me, as U1 has a whole bunch of nothing to do if U3 takes the BR into 2nd. Then, if there is a misplay at 2nd on the BR, U3 now has to try and beat the BR to 3rd for any subsequent plays. With the slide, U1 can easily take the play on the BR at 2nd, and U3 is there at 3rd waiting if something blows up.

Thoughts?

 

it was a mistake an oversight that wasn't added, but should be treated as the same sit.

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On ‎1‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:16 AM, Haid D' Salaami said:

it was a mistake an oversight that wasn't added, but should be treated as the same sit.

OK - so which situation is the correct one... slide or no slide?

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What I hoped, and figured, and had been establishing in pregame, but good to get confirmation. Thanks!

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