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    Pine tar

    It's part of the conspiracy to have the teams from each coast in the WS this year.
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    Force out caused by rear runner

    Not only is the lead runner NOT forced, he is still legally entitled to third base. If he returns, and both runners are tagged, R2 is the one who is out. A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner. (2) Two runners may not occupy a base, but if, while the ball is alive, two runners are touching a base, the following runner shall be out when tagged and the preceding runner is entitled to the base, unless Rule 5.06(b)(2) applies.
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    Has anyone ever had a 4th out appeal call?

    Yes. And, while it's a somewhat advanced technique, an dthe umpire needs to use judgment on when to do it, the umpire can sometimes say, "Coach, hat are you trying to do?"
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    45 ft. running lane violations

    Except that FED has a slightly different take on this -- sometimes.
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    Balk Rule - runner at first

    And a good percentage of the umpires -- including some who post here.
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    45 ft. running lane violations

    1) Because that's not the OBR rule. It is (part of) the FED rule, and it's called when appropriate, at least around here. 2) Well, INT, for one -- not just "trying to INT" or "potential INT."
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    Has anyone ever had a 4th out appeal call?

    [sarcasm] No,, it's never happened. That's why it's in the book. [/sarcasm] It happened to me several times over my career.
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    DH Rule ?

    That's the easiest way to handle it, of course. But, I've had plenty where that player (and any subsequent EH) could NEVER play the field, or where they could play the field, but then the EH was lost (and where the original position player's spot is skipped, and where the EH takes the position player's spot and the original EH spot is skipped -- you can see how this could lead to games playing)
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    DH Rule ?

    FED: S1 bats in place of the original F3 and DH continues to bat for original F1 (in FED, the DH can hit for any position player, not just the pitcher). OBR: S1 bats in place of the original F3, and original F1 bats in place of the DH. The ROLE of the DH is lost (and, in "pure" OBR, the player who was the DH is done; some tournaments / leagues allow re-entry).
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    Balk Rule - runner at first

    Legal, of course.
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    Umpiring experience and job interviews

    Agreed. Plus, it sets the expectations on BOTH SIDES as to whether you need to leave early on some / many days to make the games. If the ER doesn't want you to do so, you can address ti in the nterview and you'll know when deciding whether to take the job. If the ER doesn't mind, then you;ll know that , and the ER will know that and it won't be a surprise when you adjust your hours to do so.
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    DH Rule ?

    If it was OBR, then the DH is lost and whoever takes the defensive position of the player who became pitcher bats in that spot. You can get some screwy results if it was the EH who went in to pitch -- we always hope the tournament has rules to account for that -- but they usually don't
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    Interference, train wreck or tangle/untangle?

    The umpire. Unfortunately, most of the protection actually goes to the person in the stands. Maybe that's not what you were asking.
  14. None. No runs can score when the batter makes the third out before legally reaching first. Here's an AR, right from the OBR rules book: APPROVED RULING: Two out, bases full, batter hits home run over fence. Batter, on appeal, is declared out for missing first base. Three outs. No run counts.
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    NFHS changes 2019

    Would the committee be open to "the standard NFHS mechanic is xxx, but if the crew agrees, it can be yyy"? I do recognize that it can be dangerous to agree to change something because muscle memory can interfere or people can be on different pages, but certainly there are a couple of changes that should be easy to implement by crew adoption.
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    Penalty or play?

    All you can do is fix it the best you can. As a general statement, the rule book is written assuming the umpires never mess up, so there's limited guidance on what to do.
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    Angle vs Distance

    It depends a bit on the code, but it's "attempt to hit the ball" not "how far did the bat move" -- although if it moves far enough, that's also sufficient.
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    Balk Rule - runner at first

    If he spun clockwise all the way around and threw to first, that's a balk.
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    Error or not?

    Depends on whether you ask the batter's mom or the pitcher's mom. (but it's a hit) A couple of excerpts from OBR: Rule 9.12(a )(1) Comment: Slow handling of the ball that does not involve mechanical misplay shall not be construed as an error. For example, the official scorer shall not charge a fielder with an error if such fielder fields a ground ball cleanly but does not throw to first base in time to retire the batter. The official scorer shall not charge an error if the pitcher fails to cover first base on a play, thereby allowing a batter-runner to reach first base safely.
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    Good No Call or INT Missed?

    It's one of those "don't be a plumber" plays.
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    Runner Hit by the ball

    Right -- it doesn't say it in OBR, so it doesn't apply. (I seem to recall that it might, in fact, be in NCAA.) Rich is talking about the FED "string theory" -- if the infield is "in" and the runner is hit: In FED, the ball has passed (meaning "farther away") the fielders and the runner is NOT out; in OBR, the ball has not *passed through or immediately by* the fielders and the runner is out.
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    HTBT, but probably nothing -- if the player on the ground moved and that movement caused F2 not to make a play, then it could be interference.
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    Interference on Batter?

    110% of the time when the ball gets (reasonably far) away, the batter makes "some other movement."
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    Interference on Batter?

    Neither of those is required. The batter is guilty of "willful indifference" -- INT.
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    MLB's interpretation of the (repeated) movements of individual pitchers is different from what you or I would call in our games.