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That call is yours. Make it. I'm not sure I would even advocate getting help, even if asked.

Both. Just like, bases loaded, batter hits triple, then is called our for missing first.

There's no rotation on this play no matter where the ball is hit.

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2019 Interps SITUATION 19: As the head coach moves to the pitching mound for a defensive conference, he tosses a baseball to his third baseman and has him take warm-up throws with another player to get ready to pitch. RULING: A team cannot have a fielder, who is in the game, throw a baseball for the purpose of warming up as a pitcher during a defensive conference or a pitching change. If the team desires to warm up a player in the game to prepare him to pitch, it would need to take him out of the game to warm up and then later re-enter him under the substitution rule. (3-4-1) (was also in 2014 and 2006 -- or some years like that)

Agreed. Can help with a peek at R3 before the ball is caught even with R2/R3.

Hard to follow, but I think the play stands.

Please. We are humans and its an amateur game. Go ahead and say hi and acknowledge them.

Yep. It's better to be out wishing you were in than in wishing you were out. And, that applies to baseball umpiring, too.

While the home team has the "official book," the lineups the coach gives you are the "official lineups."

I'm a little confused as to what was on the cards (and I'm assuming you had a card, too), but: 1) if you had an initial, and the brother's first names were different, go with that. (As soon as you get an inkling that something like this is happening, ask the kid for his name -- they usually won't think quickly enough to lie if they don't know what is going on.) 2) If both brothers weren't in the lineup, then the worst you have is an unannounced sub; it's not BOO. 3) IF both were in the lineup and no initials (or the same initial), then (a) you should see this when you look at the lineups; (b) it's not really covered by rule so you can use your discretion. I'd go with "it's a legitimate mistake; correct the lineups and play on."

My response was to what I quoted: an appeal is 100% not a force out/force play".

It can be.

That's clearly wrong, by rule. (I agree that in practice most (nearly all) throws from a RH pitcher involve a jab step or a step back.)

Then you understand the rules for a LH pitcher -- they are the same.

Maybe the poster was high?

OP was bottom of the ninth -- typically used to refer to a pro game and not to extra innigs in an amateur game. Might be some AI example.

The OP was full count, 2 outs. Every forced runner is running on the pitch. There won't be a play on R2 advancing (there might be a play if R2 overslides, but that's enough later that BU doesn't need to turn right away). And, in the OP: That should be ignored (absent some additional information not provided) (iow, the whole post raises some suspicions)

That would be better, but "rule books are written by gentlemen for gentlemen, not by lawyers for lawyers."

The case play says: If the play didn't have the word "and" I'd agree with you. The word implies (to me) that there was a distinction between the two actions of catching the ball and having the feet in the set position.

I can't imagine F1 is ever "in the set" when he catches the ball, and it's not what the case play says.

Agreed -- and thanks for adding. That throw could also be part of relaxed action -- depending on the timing and th4e actions of the defense (when they yelled " throw it to third; he left early," for example).

Yep -- an example of "what they say isn't what they mean". If we took that phrase literally, there'd be a balk nearly every time the pitcher stepped on the rubber: The most common way is to stand to the side, put the pivot foot in the home in front of the rubber and then move the free foot to s spot in line (about) between the rubber and the plate before looking in for the sign. That's a step and a balk because the pitcher "intentionally contacted the rubber".

The play isn't clear, so either answer could be supported. If the action was "relaxed" ( the ball doesn't need to be dead; it doesn't need to be returned to the pitcher; all that's required is that runners have stopped trying to advance and the defense has stopped trying to play on an advancing runner, then this is a subsequent play and the appeal is designed. That's obviously what the question writer meant. The good news is that the question got you to think, so it did its job.

Thank you for the update.