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beerguy55 last won the day on December 27 2016

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  1. Potential double play

    Leave it to me to assume the worst in people - I'm always looking for the loopholes. I'd be pretty surprised to see a kid do it even if he knew the rule...for the rarity of how often the situation actually presents itself to begin with, then to have the presence of mind to recognize it, remember the rule, and act upon it...I'd have to applaud the kid.
  2. Batters interference, what is a play

    To my knowledge, the only time a throw is REQUIRED for interference is when the batter/runner is outside the running lane on a play to first base - baseball and softball are the same in this regard. This is from the Official Softball Rules, for international play, where all other softball codes are derived - so it would depend if LL has modified this or not - I'd like to see/hear exactly what the book you saw says: According to the International ORS your situation is an out: Batter is out... When he: 1. Hinders the catcher from catching or throwing the ball by stepping out of the batter's box, or 2. Intentionally hinders the catcher while standing within the batter's box, or 3. (FP ONLY) Interferes with a play at home plate. 4. Intentionally interferes with a thrown ball while in or out of the batter’s box And, for reference, the batter/runner is out... When he: 1. Runs outside the one meter (3 ft.) line and, in the umpire's judgment, interferes with (a) The fielder taking the throw at first base, or (b) The thrown ball, preventing a fielder from making a play at first base. NOTE: A thrown ball striking a batter-runner does not necessarily constitute interference.
  3. Where is the arrow pointing?

    I don't think so myself - as a coach, if given the choice, I would rather see something called all year and ignored in the playoffs, than the reverse. And it is typically the reverse is what I experience. I'm typically less worried about the standards being higher before than now...I'd rather adjust in the first five games than the last, and I appreciate the umps adhering to the higher emphasis early on. "Blue, we were called for this twice in March, and we adjusted - why isn't it being called now?" VS "Blue, I haven't seen a single crew call this on my team, or any team we've played, all year, and now it's 'something'?" In my experience I've had the second conversation far more often than the first - in one case in the National Championships. It's a far less pleasant conversation. The first conversation is really about setting expectations, and than just accepting it. The second is going to require an adjustment. And also in my experience the likelihood of the second conversation happening is directly related to whether or not the ump knows he's being evaluated.
  4. Can you do anything here?

    In OBR, I assume it would be the offensive coach that wins this argument. Going to the MLB playoffs a few years back when Martin's throw back to the mound hit Soo and bounced away allowing Odor to score - PU killed the play before Odor advanced and then (correctly) awarded the run after....leading to a 75 minute inning.
  5. Missed call?

    You ump softball too, right? Just curious - In softball this is always TOT, is it not? (ie. there is no provision for infielder first play)
  6. Little batter catches pitch

    LL is an all encompassing term that includes "kids" up to 18 years old...I rarely assume we're always talking about the 12 years we see in the LLWS. Being funny, being a smartass, and being a douchebag can often be interchangeable - especially depending on the mood of your audience. I'm taking the OP at face value. Right handed batter reached behind him and CAUGHT the pitch with his left hand..."not in self defense". Jumping back into the pitch is a reactionary move, is understandable, and a lot more difficult to judge that it was done on purpose. Reaching back to catch a pitch is a conscious effort and decision...and if you had time to make that decision, you had time to avoid being hit altogether.
  7. Potential double play

    The assumption here made by the other posters is the runner reached second base AFTER F1 started his pitching motion (TOP)....the scenario of said runner rounding second base before F6 catches a line drive is unusual/unlikely on its own...one possible explanation is R1 got such a head start that he was already at second base at TOP (it can happen at the younger levels where the pitcher just isn't paying attention). IF that is the case, I think the answer is he is awarded home, and he has to touch second before taking his award.
  8. Potential double play

    So, a F7 who catches a ball at the warning track, who likely has no hope of getting R1 on appeal (even though R1 has rounded second base and has a long way to go), can simply toss the ball over the fence, and then retire R1 on the subsequent appeal?
  9. Missed call?

    The first example IS a thrown ball.
  10. Little batter catches pitch

    Penalty 1 - no runners advance, and nobody scores - which would have happened if he hadn't "interfered" Penalty 2 - he doesn't get first base Penalty 3 - umps, being human, will remember this douchebag move - the next time he gets hit by a pitch, or is involved in a close play...dollars to donuts the call doesn't go in his favor There are many ways you can interfere with the play, with the flow of events, with the action...it only matters whether or not you hinder the other team.
  11. Glove Knocked Off - Detached Equipment?

    I respect every umpire on this site, and I have a general respect for most umps with regard to the job they have to do, and that they keep doing it. But, some of the responses here seem to indicate surprise at the behavior, laziness, lack of attention to detail, non-professionalism, etc, displayed by the umpires in this video. Give me ten minutes I'll post another 100 videos just like it (and, yeah, I know...nobody posts the youtube videos where the ump did his job admirably) I'm not going to say the umps in the video represent the vast majority. But I will say that the umps on this site are on the uncommon side of the equation. How many umpires are out there, and how many are members here, or sites like here? Umpires (and coaches) come to sites like this because they WANT to learn and get better...and their search for information, for ways to improve, brings them to a site like this. Umpires aren't using sites like this either because they aren't interested in learning, or don't think they have anything to gain....they know it all already (I don't buy the lack of time argument). They won't find sites like this if they're not looking for ways to improve. They will if they are. It literally took me 60 seconds to find this site, as a result of wanting to validate a certain rule during a google search, determine its value/potential, and register for it. In my travels as a coach, in five provinces, five states, and hundreds of games I have come to the conclusion that I am more likely to run into the umps in the video above (or ones like them) than I am to run into umps from this forum (or ones like them). And that's the perception you as umpires are dealing with every time you show up for a game....even though reality of the quality of most umps sits somewhere in the middle. You have an uphill battle, and are already behind the eight ball before the first pitch is thrown.
  12. Little batter catches pitch

    That information would have been helpful in the original post to the context of your question. Without that tidbit, your question is simply asking if a batter is out if he intentional gets hit by a pitch. Considering that he actually impeded his own team from scoring, and that he actually helped, not hindered, the defense by preventing the ball from going to the backstop, I have a hard time believing it would ever be called interference. Interference/obstruction are about hindrance - if he didn't hinder the defense then you have your answer.
  13. Batter turning at first base

    It's the umps (and frankly, coachs/players/parents) that don't think it's a judgment call at all and that intent doesn't matter - and hold to the belief that simply rotating left puts you at peril - that worry me.
  14. Third out run scored

    Yes - especially at that age level - at that age level the umpires are typically learning as much as the players/coaches are.
  15. Third out run scored

    A force is defined by the situation, not the method of how he was put out. The runner on first is forced to second when the batter puts the ball in play. A runner who is forced may be tagged, or you may tag the base. In either scenario it is a force out.