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  1. beerguy55

    What's the call?

    It may not matter - I think there was a case play somewhere along the way saying that entering dead ball territory qualifies as abandonment, or "desertion", even if you haven't touched first yet. If it's softball, there is an explicit rule there about a batter entering the bench before reaching first base.
  2. beerguy55

    Cursing

    Though any coach/player should know they use the f-bomb at their own peril, I'm not at all supportive of any umpire who brings his own moral sensibilities to police casual conversation. I don't care who hears it. I'll use my own judgment to control my players depending on what ears are nearby. There's a difference between "F*#K you, blue" and two players on the bench talking to each other about "our F*#King homework". You so much as look in my direction, let alone give me or my player a warning, about something that was not directed at you or your partner (or the other team), you're probably gonna be running me shortly after because I'm gonna say something like "the game's over there". Not interested in you enforcing how I talk or how my players talk any more than I'm interested in having you correct my grammar. And I'm not interested in debating the merits of saying "nice forking day" instead. If FED or the high schools want it controlled then they can provide administrators to deal with it - it's not a baseball issue. And the only reason an umpire would want to deal with this is to feed some ego trip or to improve their political standing in a local parish. There's no baseball reason to deal with it. The moral authorities can stop pretending indigence when they hear cussing or see middle fingers.
  3. beerguy55

    Error on Out Call

    Usually someone has a fit. This can also happen when an umpire correctly calls a player out.
  4. beerguy55

    Batting around

    As stated, it could be either. There's even a third option - B1 comes to the plate a second time, but doesn't necessarily complete his plate appearance (ie. the difference between the inning ending with B9's at bat, or during B1's second at bat) For me, I want to see the leadoff hitter complete a second plate appearance in the inning before saying they batted around - I want to see the scoresheet get screwed up and you have to use two columns for the same inning, and change the inning numbers at the top.
  5. Based on the thoughts and feedback in this thread, and a little common sense (perhaps), I'm thinking it's simply a strike. (maybe a dead ball strike?) Going back to the OP question "Is catcher’s interference called...or is the batter out for stepping out of the batter’s box while swinging?". Looks like it's not CI, but I also can't see an out call either. If he had hit the ball he would be out.
  6. beerguy55

    Obstruction Awarding of bases

    In short, the runner should behave as he would if there were no obstruction - if he's going to assume anything, assume the next base and nothing more - trust the ump to take care of the rest. I've heard coaches tell their players to just keeping going when they see an obstruction call, that they can't be called out, and I just shake my head.
  7. beerguy55

    Hit By Pitch

    Who said anything about "catching" the pitch? That's not the scenario that was brought up and has nothing to do with my response. Catching the pitch is (almost) always a choice. Sticking your hand up to "defend" yourself is (almost) always a thoughtless reaction. You're not catching (or even trying to catch) a 90 mph fastball going at your thigh. You caught the pitch because you could.
  8. beerguy55

    Hit By Pitch

    That is terrible and I'd probably end up ejected if you did that to one of my kids. He is not "permitting" the ball to hit him - he's making an instinctive reaction to protect himself.
  9. beerguy55

    Infield Fly Rule

    I'd argue the opposite - because the batter's intent WAS to swing, and then he changed his mind, and tried to stop the swing - the batter's intent, in the end, was not to swing. This is true in every check swing, whether you call a strike or not. Batter wanted to swing, and then changed his mind and stopped his swing. In the end, you don't care about his intent. If you judged intent on a check swing you'd never call a strike, because the batter's intent on a check swing is ALWAYS to hold back....you're judgment is whether or not he changed his mind too late....did he cross that imaginary line where he can't change his mind. It's counter-intuitive to the letter of the rule "struck at the pitch", which implies intent. To discern intent is to attempt to discern what a player is thinking. A large chunk of the interference language differentiates between intentional and unintentional - batters, runners, retired runners, coaches all have different scenarios depending on whether the umpire judges there was intent. Any (most?) Malicious Contact/Conduct call requires a judgment of intent. Judging whether a batter permitted a ball to hit him is a judgment of intent. There may be some judgment to a pitcher's intent on some balk calls.
  10. beerguy55

    Girls Softball

    There is an advantage - F3 can now use the extra real estate to deal with a throw that is offline - in some cases he could use the orange bag to get (slightly) closer to the incoming throw. And R1 has some room for error if he overruns/overslides the base on his way back. He can now use the whole thing. Overall, between defense and offense it's probably a wash, but the end result is a two 1/2 foot wide base. Good point on the BB's - I guess they felt the need to address it rather than just imply that it is treated like any other time the batter runs past first when there is no play at first.
  11. beerguy55

    Girls Softball

    Good catch...AND I have to say wow...just wow...Article 3 (a, b and c) basically makes first base twice the size of second and third base - I don't know if FED thinks this makes things safer...or is just trying to make it less confusing??? The "base on balls" one is just dumb...because by rule the batter/runner (now R1) has to be touching the fair portion of the bag by the time the pitcher is ready to pitch. Unless things have changed the last couple of years I've never seen any other rule set that treats first base this way - I never coached in FED softball rules (I have ASA, NSA, USSSA, Softball Canada, and International Rules). Here are the Official International rules regarding the safety base - highlighted are the ones where FED has contradicted: NOTE: THE FOLLOWING RULES APPLY TO THE DOUBLE BASE: a) A batted ball hitting the fair portion is declared fair, and a batted ball hitting the foul portion only is declared foul. b) If a play is made at first base on any batted ball, or (FP ONLY) the batter runs on a dropped third strike, and the batter-runner touches only the fair portion, and if the defense appeals prior to the batter-runner returning to the fair portion of first base, the batter-runner is out. NOTE: This is treated the same as missing the base. c) A defensive player must use only the fair portion of the base at all times. EXCEPTION: On any live ball play made from first base foul territory, the batter-runner and the defensive player may use either base. When the defensive player uses the foul portion of the double base, the batter-runner can run in fair territory and if hit by a throw from the foul side of first base, it would not be interference. If intentional interference is ruled, the batter-runner would be out. NOTE: The one meter line is doubled on throws from foul territory. d) After over-running the base, the batter-runner must return to the fair portion. e) On balls hit to the outfield when there is no play being made at the double base, the batter-runner may touch either portion of the base. f) When tagging up on a fly ball, the fair portion must be used. g) On an attempted pick-off play (FP ONLY) the runner must return to the fair portion. h) Once a runner returns to the fair portion, should he stand on the foul portion only, it is considered not in contact with the base and the runner shall be called out, if 1. He is tagged with the ball, or 2. He stands on the foul portion of the base, while the pitcher has possession of the ball within the pitcher’s circle
  12. beerguy55

    Infield Fly Rule

    Because the rules allow it. (except when the INTENT is to confuse the runners) So, let's say you have bases loaded and batter hits it to the gap...R3 scores easily...R2 trips over third base - gets up and dives back into third...R1 is halfway to third and realizes R2's in trouble, so stops and moves back to second. B/R doesn't see anything and sails into second base standing up....then sees R2 heading back to third and R1 heading back to second...you honestly think the batter/runner isn't allowed to return to first, simply because he's touched second base? Edit: in fact there are case plays that even account for this - eg. a forced runner reaches second, but believing the ball is caught returns to first...once he leaves second and heads back to first he becomes a forced runner again. The only time the acquired base comes into play is time of pitch - you may not go backwards from the base you have at TOP. And yes, doing it for "fun", or "SH*#s and giggles", or "no reason at all", or "my neighbor's dog told me to" would all qualify as "travesty of the game". Biscuit's answer is right - two runs score, one out, runner on second
  13. beerguy55

    Runs scored on appeal play

    Most appeals are time plays, which would allow a run that scores before the third out occurs to count, but if the appeal results in a third out that would normally negate a run it negates the run. (ie. batter/runner out before first, runner out on force, preceding runner out).
  14. beerguy55

    Dump the asst. and restrict HC?

    In my defense, the first statement was a comment on the past, the second was a question....so there. And yes, I get you're half joking - ie. if the statement is true then you (and Obi-Wan) are Sith. So, considering I haven't been force choked in the past few minutes, I assume you're a kinder gentler Sith. Can you send me membership registration information?
  15. beerguy55

    New to baseball, need help

    By running he also would have avoided sitting the rest of the game on the bench, doing 50 pushups, and running ten laps around the warning track. Me too - all my players are named Jesus Christ.
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