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  1. I agree. My question was built around that the umpire might have kicked this piece already and prevented either of the two "correct" things from happening. Either they appeal and runner is out or runner fixes his error and now is awarded third.
  2. Why is the runner being awarded third?
  3. pnewton

    Dropped 3rd strike

    I believe that this depends on the rule set, but in OBR (pro rules) the batter is out when he leaves the dirt circle around home plate.
  4. pnewton

    Interference, train wreck or tangle/untangle?

    Interference. Protection can change during a play. It certainly sounds like F1 had the best shot to make the play by the time the play could be made (even got a glove on the ball).
  5. pnewton

    Can the player be suspended

    Many leagues have mandatory suspensions for players and/or coaches that are ejected. Many of these leagues also allow for post game ejections which would bring about thiat suspension. So in a round about way yes, but not directly.
  6. pnewton

    Out or foul ball?

    It's foul if the ball touches the part of the runner that is in foul territory because that means the ball was over/in foul territory. Remember that fair/foul determinations are always made by where the ball is, not the person touching the ball. For a runner to be out on interference by touching a batted ball THE BALL must be fair, where the (rest of the) runner is does not matter.
  7. pnewton

    Pick off attempt

    Yes, as long as the step is direct to the base. This normally involves the front foot going straight back, as for a righty first base is behind him, and then the turn of the torso. Lifting his knee then dropping back to first is not a direct step, I think that may be what happened in this situation.
  8. pnewton

    Pick off attempt

    I disagree, he can legally step and throw to a base to make a play. The confusion is whether this particular step was a legal one.
  9. pnewton

    Picking off a runner

    Depends on what rules were being used. Legal in obr (the pro rules but also the basis for most major youth programs), a balk in Fed (high school rules, used by some youth programs). I don't know about NCAA rules but I doubt you were using those.
  10. pnewton

    When is a Sac fly a Sac fly?

    That run counts. The out at first is not a force out. You use the term "any standard double play" which is not a term found or used in the rule book. Runs do not score on a play where the third out is made either on a force out or the batter before reaching first base. The batter was the second out when the fly ball was caught so that's clearly not the third out. By definition a runner is never forced to retreat, only to advance when the batter becomes a runner (the batter was already out so that isn't happening here either). The out at first is, by rule, an appeal and not a force. I hope you were on the correct side of that argument!
  11. pnewton

    Is Interference The Correct Call?

    Two issues. 1. The runner can't be out twice, there are times where you rule a teammate out on retired runner interference (see point number 2) 2. If all the runner did was continue to run the bases that is not interference, if he did some thing to intentionally interfere that would be different but just continuing to run isn't enough. The defense needs to k ow the situation.
  12. pnewton

    F2-only Putout On U3K?

    Legal in mlb at least (yes, I know this is a few years old).
  13. pnewton


    You are wrong. Once the pitcher steps off he is an infielder and can do anything the other infielders can do. Even from the pitchers plate he can throw to a position player near a base that the pitcher is allowed to feign to (always second base, third base depends on which rules you are using). Also, if that fielder is attempting a play (judgement call, usually means going toward the base) it is allowed.
  14. pnewton

    Third out

  15. pnewton

    Hand separation in delivery

    It's certainly not a "double set" - I don't have anything illegal there.