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maven

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  1. 8-4-2B or 8-4-2C

    I don't know whether I satisfy the description of the target audience, but your reasoning is sound. 'Blocking the plate/base without the ball' must take into account proximity of the runner, but your description seems to qualify. Even if F2 jumps out of the way at the last moment, he's guilty of OBS, and we should call it and point. When the runner scores, there's no further penalty required.
  2. 8-4-2B or 8-4-2C

    FPSR violations are INT by rule: even where there's no hindrance, the ball is dead, and we enforce the penalties for FPSR. Example: R1/R3 and no outs, routine ground ball, 6-4-3 double play is executed without hindrance. But R1 slides illegally toward F4 (without hindering him), so we get FPSR. Here, the double play "never happened": R1 is called out for the violation, and the BR is called out by rule. The call makes a difference because we'd send R3 back for the FPSR violation, but not for a routine double play. Diving over a fielder is not INT by rule, but can be INT in practice. Example: R3 tags and tries to score, and F2 goes to his knees to field the throw. R3 dives or hurdles directly over F2 without making contact and scores, as F2 stands up and fires to 3B to retire an advancing R1. With no hindrance, R3 is out for the dive but the ball remains live, and R1's out at 3B counts. In a different version of the second play, when diving over F2 the runner knocks him over. That's also INT, and the ball is dead immediately, with R1 sent back to the last base legally touched at TOI.
  3. Jump spin from modified

    Without more info about what he did, we can neither confirm nor deny the correctness of your judgment call. I merely referenced the criteria from the rule, I didn't presume to apply them.
  4. Benidtenei out of baseline

    I'd bet that PU said nothing because U1 ruled the runner safe, and he wasn't sure whether U1's ruling was "comprehensive." When the conferenced, I'm guessing it was something along these lines: U1: I had no tag, runner touched 1B. PU: Were you ruling on OOB? U1: No, I was focused on tag/no tag. PU: I had him OOB. U1: We should change it to "out."
  5. Jump spin from modified

    Only if it fails to satisfy the requirements of a throw/feinted throw to a base.
  6. Benidtenei out of baseline

    I believe PU came in with the "out of the baseline" call. That's fine: U1 is watching for the tag and the touch, he has his hands full. I believe this judgment call is unreviewable, which would explain why it wasn't reviewed. The call has to be made in real time at pro speed. If we need multiple still shots and super slo-mo and protractors to assess the correctness of a judgment call, it would stand on review every time.
  7. Interference on Double Play Attempt

    In the OP, it's actually an FPSR violation. As you know, that includes INT, but has a more severe penalty (than 8-4-2c, which could also be referenced here), requiring that the BR be called out by rule no matter where or whether the fielder intended to throw the ball. 8-4-2b
  8. Automatic Ball for Extra Warmup Pitch

    Yeah, that Rumble interp is crap. 6-2-2 is the "delay of game" rule, and it has 3 kinds, (a) F1 throwing to someone other than F2, (b) extra conferences, and (c) violating the 20-second rule. The EXCEPTION is an exception to the prohibition of delaying the game. Normal warmups are not delay of game. There is no penalty indicated for violating this provision. The penalty for 6-2-2c is the nearest penalty (violating the 20-second rule earns F1 a ball in the count), but there's absolutely no indication that this penalty should ALSO apply to the EXCEPTION. Between 6-2-2c and the EXCEPTION is a NOTE, which requires that the ball be returned immediately to F1. I guess Rumble wants us to start adding a ball to the count for that, too.
  9. Set position

    A "second set" including anything the umpire properly judges to satisfy that description is illegal because it violates the requirement to come set in 1 continuous motion. If something is moving, then he's not set yet. We see this in pitchers who shrug, wiggle, move their feet, etc. while coming set, even if their hands stop somewhere.
  10. Interference on Double Play Attempt

    No. 8-4-2c
  11. Automatic Ball for Extra Warmup Pitch

    Yes. "I said one more, not two more. Your school teaches you the difference, right?"
  12. Base Award

    The rule you keep quoting from is articulating the TOT exception for a batted ball. It extends TOP to all runners, no matter where they were at TOT. IOW, it's saying: IF the award is TOP for the BR, then it's TOP for all runners. But the award in the OP is not TOP, because it's not a batted ball. So no part of the many clauses of the TOT exception applies, and the award is TOT.
  13. Automatic Ball for Extra Warmup Pitch

    The MSU rule.
  14. Caught foul ball

    I see. The abandonment call is a last resort for me, used at all depending on level. If the BU doesn't rule on the appeal until after R1 is halfway to the dugout—or if BU doesn't clearly communicate his ruling—then I'm probably not getting abandonment, but treating it as a sort of "changed" judgment call that put R1 at a disadvantage. But at HS varsity and up, with a reasonably clear denial of the retouch appeal, and R1 just wanders off, yeah, that's abandonment.
  15. Triple Play after baseball hits umpire

    Bad base running. Should have yielded 1 out, runners move up a base like a sacrifice.
  16. Caught foul ball

    If the umpire rules it a foul fly ball, the batter is out when the ball is caught (bracketing the issue of the double tap). You are correct that runners must retouch, and failing to do so should be called out on a proper appeal (which it sounds as if was done here). Double play. R1 returning to the dugout after being called out on retouch appeal is generally accepted procedure (not sure what you were asking there).
  17. Batter Steps out of Batters Box

    So LL is no different from all other codes: call the pitch. As Tborze implies, benefit of any doubt on borderline pitches to F1 (call it a strike).
  18. Base Award

    What was the status of the ball? The defense gets an exception to the TOT award when they are fielding a batted ball and make the first throw by an infielder. Here's the FED version: "In any situations other than (a) or (b), on a batted ball which is the first play by an infielder, all runners including the batter-runner are awarded two bases from their positions at the time of the pitch." (8-3-5) Is that what we have here?
  19. Benidtenei out of baseline

    Interesting call. Very tight, but supportable, and I like it because baseball is a game of defense. I would add that my usual "smell test" for this call is the runner going around the fielder's outstretched arm (usually about 3'). Here, F3 has to dive, but that's also due to his being more than 4' from the runner when he fields the ball. This distance complicates the judgment call. Oddly, had F3 succeeded in tagging the runner, the call of safe would have stood: the ball popped out of F3's glove as he landed. Great body control by the BR.
  20. IFF with Shift

    Doesn't this answer the question?
  21. verbal obstruction ?

    I'd like to know what F4 said, but I'm inclined to say that's nothing. For one thing, in the end it sounds as if there was no hindrance. The case play illustrating Hopkins's (overly broad) statement about verbal OBS shows what the hindrance here would look like. No hindrance = no OBS. For another, both teams got the outcome they expected when the batter popped up to F6: B out, R1 back to 1B. To disrupt that by inserting an OBS call would be poor game management. Even in a different version of the play that results in a DP, I can see a no call being right. If the batter had hit a soft liner to F6, with R1 stealing he's probably a dead duck on appeal. In that case again, a slight hesitation hear 2B is probably not sufficient hindrance to get OBS. In general, live longer, and don't make borderline OBS/INT calls. A "KTSO" to F4 after the play seems better here.
  22. Ball?

    It's possible for the umpire to call a pitch in the strike zone a strike, and if the batter moves into a strike in the zone he will not be entitled to 1B (not a HBP). If the rule were otherwise, the crappiest batters could neutralize great pitching by sticking their arm in front of a strike and get on base.
  23. Runners Lane Interference feedback

    Correct call. You're positioned at 1BLX, which gives you an angle for judging the BR's position going down the lane. The only change I'd recommend is to bust up the line yourself a bit to get closer to this call. Being closer will give you a better look at any additional action on this type of play (which didn't happen here, but often does on this kind of play). The only reason to remain at the plate would be having a possible scoring play, which isn't the case here. So we basically treat it as a batted ball in the infield.
  24. Ball?

    If the pitch is not in the strike zone, it does not become a strike when it hits the batter. Leaning over the plate is irrelevant (though the pitch might look more like a strike to me if he did that).
  25. GROUND RULE DOUBLE?

    It's a fair ball that left the field, not in flight, so....
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