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Jimurray

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  1. It's a motivational thing and when done well very impressive. 3 fungo coaches, 3 catchers and 30 guys on the field knowing where to throw. A youtube video might exist. Regarding the PRs or CRs, seen a bunch of track guys subbed. Seen a bunch of track guys picked off doing stupid baserunning tricks.
  2. I pity you NCAA guys that have to apply this video with a judgement of the minute possibilty of the step being towards home, thus the second step in the delivery making it an illegal pitch. Except it seems the video is there because most NCAA umpires are not focusing on the minute direction of the stutter step and not calling an illegal pitch. This reminds me of the FED hand to the mouth on the rubber balk, written in stone and never to be changed. NCAA can not back off this interp. Egos would be damaged. Meanwhile as you watch the videos the rank and file haven't called such violations. Caution: NCAA umpires should not comment on this thread. You know why.
  3. And some in FED would say they got it right other than implementing the penalty wrong.
  4. They kicked it. If you think they got the judgement of intent right they kicked old 7.08(b) where you call the runner and the batter out. If you think Onora didn't know the rule he's had a few kicks in his career and he kicked this one for lack of intent. I don't think FED calls two out but their wording allows some of our cohorts to require some effort to get out of the way of the fielder. I don't.
  5. A few misconceptions in this thread and I'll only address this one as @noumpere is taking care of the rest. The bag is protection for getting hit by an IFF and unintentionally hindering a fielder fielding a batted ball. When off the bag MLB protects the runner from INT with a batted ball if the ball went thru or by the fielder and no other fielder had a play on it. Thru or by means within reach of the fielder. A runner hit by a batted ball going in the gap past drawn in infielders would be out for INT. NFHS protects a runner behind a fielder if the batted ball passed that fielder and the umpire judges no other fielder had a play on the ball. A crutch has existed in NFHS called "string theory". If the runner is behind a string stretched between fielders there is no INT
  6. And take the heat on social media as the rule writers and interpreters do not have your back with any social media supporting your implementation of the rule. Thus all of you NCAA/NJCAA/NAIA umps should have your group tell the conference it's their job to take care of that stuff. I know, you are not going to go on strike and give up that paycheck.
  7. I had a wild occurrence quite a few years ago posted on UE. Somewhere in the thread was a confirmation that FED only cared about defensive subs being announced before they were on defence. But I don't recall a definition of projected subs in FED and if a coach wanted to give you a change to all 9 lineups while you were counting 5 pitches he could do it. You, of course would have left your three balls in the batters box while you took the subs. IN NCAA and OBR the sub is in when the coach reports it. By rule in FED the sub is in when the umpire announces it and he can announce it at the time it is told to him. As the caseplay shows you can't sub for a player who has not been in the game yet.
  8. All codes agree on base touches with a batted ball. 1B, forced bases, winning run. So 90' for each runner and we are out of there, except NCAA wants the umpires to do the coaches and conferences jobs and birddog stuff.
  9. It's a base but it's untouchable: "A BASE is one of four points which must be touched by a runner in order to score a run; more usually applied to the canvas bags and the rubber plate which mark the base points."
  10. I think NCAA would agree with you but MiLB and MLB umps would not
  11. It is a rule in NCAA. It's an interp in OBR and NFHS.
  12. Randy Bruns in NCAA doesn't like it. Calls it an alteration.
  13. You do need two answers. When would the runner be out? When he touched or passed HP on the way back. Can you be called for obstructing a runner retreating to the plate? No, unless there was intent.
  14. That's not the question by rule in OBR but if they want to make the it question they can live with it. Except they had a "meathook" interp a few seasons ago that proved unworkable for "on the transfer" and they changed it midseason. They might change this one also. In the OP the fielder was not blocking anything until he moved to glove the throw and that reach required a half step in front of the base.
  15. The projected substitute rule was only designed to preclude courtesy runners for pinch hitters or pinch runners. Some umpires morph it into a coach can't make a projected sub on offense such as subbing the 1,2,3 batters with one visit to the ump. The rule does not prevent that as it is also not prohibited in the other codes. If a coach wants to handcuff himself with a new lineup that half inning he can do it. He can even give you a sub for the eight batter of the half inning and tell you he's going to go in for #whatever, the CF. We sub the numbers and don't care where they play as we know the only players they can courtesy run for.
  16. If this is regarding F3, both feet do have to be in fair territory except if F3 is playing in foul territory interps allow it to be ignored unless noticed or brought to the attention of the umpire. There is no penalty other than ejection for refusal to comply if directed by the umpire. Most umpires do not "notice" it unless the other team complains. In the past faulty indentation of the "balk penalty" caused some literal umpires to call the "fielders balk" which does not exist. Notice the indentation of the "penalty" below. There are other ramifications when other fielders are not in fair territory which I will leave unaddressed. "5.02 Fielding Positions When the ball is put in play at the start of, or during a game, all fielders other than the catcher shall be on fair territory. (a)  The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher’s box until the ball leaves the pitcher’s hand. PENALTY: Balk. (b)  The pitcher, while in the act of delivering the ball to the batter, shall take his legal position; (c) Infielder Positioning Any fielder other than the pitcher and the catcher may station himself anywhere in fair territory, except as described below:"
  17. The announcer said you cannot block any part (and this paly had a partial block) of the base. Is that codified in the new interp/instruction to umps that they said to abide by instead of the rule. The rule allows you to block while fielding the ball which was happening. Has it been changed? The rule in the book was not violated: "OBSTRUCTION is the act of a fielder who, while not in possession of the ball and not in the act of fielding the ball, impedes the progress of any runner" per how it was called in years past. Did they change the rule? Will this be a mid season change/reversal to an interp as was the "meathook" transfer debacle in years past. Even FED would not call this obstruction. Off topic: While you see some MLB umps here, deep "B' would be better and he dodged a bullet.
  18. Hope you get my words of encouragement today before you head out to the field: "don't suck"
  19. Yes they did. NCAA wants umpires to do the coaches and AD's job. We take care of some stuff but we need to focus between the lines. If sht happens NCAA, NCAA umpire coordinator, rules person, whoever the f, should take action against the teams, coaches, ADs who should "educate" these "student athletes" about unsportsman like behavior. As it is any umpire who tries to head off incidents is castigated on social media with nary a peep from NCAA or his association that the action was appropriate and supported by them. I guess the money is good and needed by a lot of big division umps and their assignors because if they had cohones they would tell NCAA that they are not going to police sht that coaches are responsible for.
  20. 2) Unless you are a big dog in your area, you should work the not standard mechanics, unless the umpire shortage has them begging. Then you can tell the big dog to take a hike and tell them to do all the post season by themselves. (I seem to be in a foul mood this evening)
  21. sound of something going over my head
  22. I see a little hesitation but I've seen some MLB plays where there was no contact because the fielder pulled up because he did not want to get trucked and thus no INT was called. The fielder was not hindered in fielding the batted ball. He gloved it. He just didn't catch it.
  23. I'm wondering if your mechanics system gives you a choice between "B" and "C"? I'm also wondering if you glanced at your primary responsibility, R1 tagging or not.
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