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Jimurray

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  1. Defensive Shift and NFHS Question

    I like your functional definition but Hopkins uses "stationing" when he is quoted regarding the, in my 2011 BRD, 2009 website #19, #20. So normal stationed players retain their status as infielders or outfielders. I would say the umpire would have to judge non normal stationing and could call it either way using your criteria which I like. But Ohio umps can't do that.
  2. Defensive Shift and NFHS Question

    Would that be the pre-pitch position? It appears that F4 made an outfielder play in this caseplay. If F9 had made the play I think we would have no problem calling it the first play by an outfielder: 2018 Casebook *8.3.5 SITUATION F: With R2 on second and R1 on first base, B3 hits a fly ball in shallow right-field area between F3, F4 and F9. All three players converge on the ball as it falls safely but is fielded on the bounce by F4. R2 is beyond third, R1beyond second and B3 is beyond first when F4 throws to home base (or third base). Ball bounces into stand. RULING: Though F4's throw was the first play by an infielder following a pitch, award each runner (including batter-runner) two bases from the base he occupied when the ball left the hand of F4, since all runners already have advanced one base. If B3 had not reached first base, award all runners two bases from their location at the time of the pitch.
  3. Defensive Shift and NFHS Question

    Does that statement also refer to yearly interps? There are quite a few that are out of date in years past.
  4. Defensive Shift and NFHS Question

    In FED, we don't know what the infield is. They do give a diagram 2 which does not help much as to what the outfield is. They do say that there are only 3 outfielders. I'm calling it the first play by an infielder. Caseplays do not supercede rules, but I've certainly used them to clarify rules. In this case I am not.
  5. Baseball Rules Myths - Busted

    OBR recognized the inconsistency of their rule at a forced base versus at 1B some years ago. They revised the wording for the one rule to make it the same as the other, semantically a tie goes to the runner. They could have revised the other instead to make a tie go to the defense but they didn’t. I would think they did that on purpose.
  6. So if the batter had not swung the catcher in that video would be guilty of CI if he moved up closer to the foul line to retrieve the pitch?
  7. You are totally wrong about NCAA baseball with this statement; "Rationale: College softball's move toward eliminating the defense's opportunity to block the plate without the ball follows both NCAA and MLB baseball's move to eliminate this area of potential contact.If you had taken the NCAA BB rules test or watched any video interps this or last year you would realize that NCAA allows the catcher to block the plate without the ball if he is fielding the ball within 60', the blocking not necessarily being part of the fielding. The onus is on the runner to slide. That prevents a collision. There are of course some nuances to the rule.
  8. Baseball Rules Myths - Busted

    You do know that OBR/MLB had wording a while ago where the tie went to runner at one base (forced or 1B I can't remember) and the tie went to the fielder at the other. They changed the wording to semantically make a tie go to the runner at all bases except for an appeal throw. You have done an excellent job parsing the MLB rule and now your homework is to parse the NFHS and NCAA rules. Where a tie does not always go to the runner. I did it once and forgot it. I've always relied on your last sentence but I like to make sure that an umpire who thinks the tie does not go to the runner in OBR, except an appeal, does not say the wrong thing to @Rich Ives when asked what did you see on a force or out at 1B. "The ball did not beat the runner" is safe to say semantically except for appeals. "The runner did not beat the ball" is not safe to say except I never have heard of any protest over that semantic error. Do you want to be the first?
  9. Interference

    The rare time or times it has happened since the rule and interp change in MLB have been called in accordance with Wendelstedt.
  10. Missing outfielder

    In earlier BRDs Carl gave you the choice to use Dreary/Evans nullification or J-Rs benefit interp. Does your most current BRD mention the J-R interp?
  11. 2 Man R1 and R2

    By the manual the PU does not have any tag/retouch responsibilty at 1B or 2B. If the PU is taking R2 into 3B most likely there was a tag or a short retouch which can easily be handled by the BU along with the catch no catch. If R1 was tagging, which would not be as common as retouching, a BU head swivel would provide some judgement and the crew would determine whether the PU could help but the PU is running down to the library and rarely has an angle on the runners and the catch.
  12. NFHS Rules: Catcher's Helmet

    Interestingly, the NCAA rule requires a throat guard, which I assume we take as the bottom of the mask when a skull cap and mask are worn together. They CYA’d their ask. “b. Catcher’s Throat Guard. It is required that all catchers have a built-in or attachable throat guard on their masks. c. Catcher’s Helmet and Face Mask. It is required that all catchers shall wear a protective helmet and face mask when fielding their position, warming up a pitcher (ie. between innings) or catching in the bullpen. It is recommended that all catcher’s helmets bear the manufacturer’s certification indicating satisfaction of NOCSAE test standards. PENALTY for b. and c.—The player shall not be allowed to catch but shall not be ejected from the contest.
  13. 2 Man R1 and R2

    I was asking the OP about a brief, another page in the CCA that both involved in the OP could benefit from reading, somewhere around p40 edited to add: I don’t think you should ever split those tags or retouches between BU and PU. PU might be calling a play at 3B when R1 decides to retouch or come close to retouching and advances to 2B on an overthrow or whatever. BU is primary on R1 and R2. As sarge used to say, lineup R2 and glance at R1 after.
  14. Missing outfielder

    Marazzi added actual player and manager names to the event and created the impression in my mind that it happened in an MLB game but I found no play involving the HR hitter, leading off the fifth inning and the right fielder, because of his illness, being subbed for when the cited teams played in the past. But if the RF wasn't subbed for there would be no game record that anything happened. You would expect an outcry that would have made it into newspaper though and that didn't happen. Earlier BRDs have an the current ruling of negating any play but also an earlier ruling from Roder that would allow the play to stand unless the defense gained an advantage. It appears the Roder ruling was adopted by the NCAA but not currently in OBR.
  15. 2 Man R1 and R2

    CCA has had U1 take both tag ups in my 2010 CCA and my 2018 CCA (p82). That being said my brief is that you, U1, have all touches and tags at 1B and 2B, if I can I will look at 1B while booking down to the library, but you are primary if there is an appeal. Was there a brief? BTW, I don't know if it's in the book but I say PU has all touches and tags at 3B except the BR.
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