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  1. All three codes recognize accidental force outs. But is this a live ball putout sit or an appeal sit.
  2. Jimurray

    2019 Rulebook is now on Arbiter

    But I have a little semantic problem with this POE and it's not the baserunner spelling: "BASERUNNERS' RESPONSIBILITIES The baserunner is arguably one of the most important roles in baseball. Without him/her there can be no scoring. However, the baserunner has tremendous responsibilities. Beside Definitions, Baserunning is the second largest rule in the NFHS Rule book. The Baseball Rules Committee wants to emphasize that the advancing baserunner has to touch the bases in the correct order (including awarded bases), he/she should not miss any base or leave a base too early, but if that occurs, he/she must return to touch the base immediately. In addition, the committee wants to point out that if the baserunner runs more than three feet away from a direct line between bases to avoid a tag or to hinder the defensive player he/she will be declared out. They must slide in a direct line between the bases. When he/she elects to slide (by rule he/she does not have to slide) it must be legal. The baserunner cannot cause illegal contact and/or illegally alter the actions of the defensive player in the immediate act of making a play or on a force play. Jumping, hurdling and leaping are all legal attempts to avoid the fielder as long as the fielder is lying on the ground. Diving over a fielder is illegal. Attention to the intricacies of base running will enhance better rule knowledge and compliance, elevate fair play and promote risk minimization."
  3. Just to be clear the rule does not require the ball to be in either the hand or the glove. It just requires possession: "6.02(a)(9) The pitcher, without having the ball, stands on or astride the pitcher’s plate....". But I have no problem with you concluding a lack of possession. I do wonder where you get this sentence, "If the ball is in their hand, it must be at their side or behind them." The OBR rule does not specify which hand should be at his side and which hand has to have the ball. Does Wendelstedt expound on this?
  4. I would lean toward, time, don’t do that, step off and start again.
  5. So if you have him coming set it would then be a violation of "6.02(a) (10) The pitcher, after coming to a legal pitching position, removes one hand from the ball other than in an actual pitch, or in throwing to a base;"
  6. That's a "do not do that" edited to add, unless you are referring to the second clause.
  7. What OBR rule would you cite?
  8. It's interesting that the BRD uses this phrase, " BR is out. Because the defense played on another runner before BR interfered, runners return TOI", when OBR does not actually address a play on another runner except the intervening play at home plate. NCAA actually does address any intervening play. It would be rare to have to apply the rule with a play other than at home plate so my concern will remain semantic.
  9. Jimurray

    2019 Changes

    So it's lucky this guy, who was given a pass by big dogs from the current rule at this years CWS, not that I don"t agree with the pass, is lucky to have graduated and now has a contract so squaring him up won't be necessary. But is anyone talking about how EFD UPD the 2019 rule is? We have a bunch (not all) of HS umps squinting at the pitchers free foot in the windup to the detriment of what they should be looking at. The NCAA rule committee decided to go one better and make them squint at the foot and chest. Again, I would ask anyone to post a video of a college pitcher who you did not know was gonna windup or stretch. But let's go to the most extreme example and the impetus for last years MLB/OBR rule change requiring a "declaration", David Price. Since he's fresh in all of our minds, (a feel good moment that he got the chip off his shoulder), anyone watching this WS not know whether he was going to wind up or stretch. You do, however, have to pay attention. Buts that's what umpires are supposed to do.
  10. Jimurray

    2019 Changes

    How many hybrid pitchers have you had to square up in scrimmages and were the pitching coaches good with the change?
  11. Jimurray

    Game 4 - RLI No Call

    There is a "last step, stride or slide" interp that allows a runner who has run legally to go fair to touch the base. That wouldn't apply in this case. But I think the PU judged the runner had touched the base when the ball got there. Technically, a runner would not have to exit the lane to touch 1B. The foul line is considered part of the lane, making the lane a little more than 3' wide and giving a 3 or 4 inch part of 1B free to touch without exiting the lane. But if you've paid attention during the series every runner who dropped or dribbled a ball close to HP has run illegally out of the lane. In all but this case the defense made the play, maybe because the location of the ball allowed a throwing lane without adjustment. But, I again advocate eliminating the lane rule. There is a history of proper and improper or debatable calls and no calls. It seems the pros are taking the odds the the defense won't be hindered or the ump won't call it and telling runners to go direct to 1B from their initial position.
  12. I don't think Benintendi's late swing hindered the catcher so I don't have a problem with nothing. BUT The screen shot shows he had his bat on his shoulder until the ball was in the glove. He swung over the ball and the glove. If he had swung and contacted the glove do we have CI or BI?https://www.mlb.com/video/betts-swipes-second-in-1st/c-2517487883?tid=63106348
  13. Jimurray

    Interesting Play

    That is the gist of my 2017 MLBUM Interp #32. Wording is slightly different.
  14. Jimurray

    Interesting Play

    FED does actually call this a force in one of their case plays so you might allow a tag of 1B in that case. But, if the umpire did not call the batter runner out, would you, as the umpire then call him out when and if tagged returning to 1B, absentclearly relaxed action and @maven 's or your time call. Or for purposes of making this a realistic play, what if there were other runners and you now had a pickle between 1B and HP? The OP is a benign exploration of the rules but lets extend it to with runners on. I'm calling the batter-runner out when the base is tagged,
  15. Jimurray

    Balk Rule - runner at first

    That’s from 2013. I think a later interp allows for giving the impression or something like that.
  16. Jimurray

    Home-away uniform.

    Has the protocol changed in the regular and/or postseason as to what the visiting team uniform will say on the front. It used to be the city but I see Brewers in LA.
  17. Jimurray

    2019 Changes

    Will there be an "epidemic" again? http://baseballnews.com/hit-pitch-epidemic-threatens-game-integrity/ But given the variable judgements using the current rule the change seems to make it easier on the umpire.
  18. Jimurray

    Dropped 3rd strike

    The MLBUM also allows the umpire to judge that a batter "lingering" in the dirt circle has shown no effort to run to 1B and can be called out.
  19. Jimurray

    Home-away uniform.

    I appreciate all your research into the matter. And while a curmudgeon is of the opinion that nobody cares about the rule I do know that it was newsworthy when a player had the wrong jersey quite a few years ago, not that it was a rule violation.
  20. Jimurray

    Fair/Foul bal

    Simplistic answer does serve the OP poster because the gist of his question is where the fielder was. Let’s leave it at that.
  21. Jimurray

    45 ft. running lane violations

    Which they did last night in Dodger-Brewer game 7. Buehler bunted and ran inside the whole way. Easy Peasy.
  22. Jimurray

    Has anyone ever had a 4th out appeal call?

    That’s one “nevermind”. We need one more if you peruse the thread . BTW I’m guilty of at least one “nevermind” in my posting history.
  23. Jimurray

    You Make The Call

    You might have OBS in NCAA this next year also. And, I'm thinking it might be OBS in OBR also depending on whether you judge a legitimate reaction to the hop.
  24. Jimurray

    Has anyone ever had a 4th out appeal call?

    I’m confused. How many outs to start? Doesn’t seem like a fourth out appeal.
  25. Jimurray

    Home-away uniform.

    So is it just protocall as to the grey or white or the wtf color is that as far as H or V go? Not a big deal other than my curiosity. Us amateurs have no problem with discerning two teams with, in the worst case, the logo only.