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Everything posted by Jimurray

  1. Chirping Assistant

    For NCAA do you do the “I’m required to mention” “b� Remind coaches of and review dugout control, the batter’s-box rule, bench jockeying and force-play slide rules; and” I’ve always neglected that at JUCO level. And it seems even if mentioned it would have no effect based upon actual FPSR violations that occur.
  2. Fair/foul and catch/no catch sequence

    I noted before that MLB umps will not signal catch on a can of corn near the foul line but will signal fair or foul.
  3. Field of Play

    Roe must have had one of those rulebooks with the balk penalty for the catcher leaving the box during an IBB not indented properly.
  4. Please Clarify

    OBR has corrected the inconsistency. But FED and NCAA still have parsing problems at a forced (not 1B) base. Tag of the runner must beat the runner touching the base but the runner must beat the tag of the base. But @beerguy55 did a great thesis in this thread: And CloseCall sports addresses it also: https://www.closecallsports.com/2012/07/rules-605j-701-and-708e-tie-goes-to.html#more
  5. Is this "play on"?

    The BRD play had the B-R out on a pop up at the plate with R1 stealing. They say if a throw from F2 to F3 at 1B to retire R1 hit the B-R outside the lane it would be interference. It wouldn't apply in this OP. So running lane is not relevant and intent would have to be judged to call interference. HTBT.
  6. Is this "play on"?

    Whether the retired B-R was in the running lane is relevant to his getting hit by a throw to HP. Altough I only have that from a confusing 2011 BRD cite. I wonder if not being in the lane, if that was the case in the OP, would be relevant.
  7. NCAA balk rule

    So for our guest, the balk is enforced. Runner back to 2B. But in the OP you might have had an ump who was hazy on when to kill the ball. To tell the truth, even when we know the mechanic, our brain might not process fast enough to kill it when we should. But the runner should be put back at 2B. If he wasn’t the ump ate his balk call and hoped nobody noticed.
  8. NCAA balk rule

    @Richvee if NCAA is same as OBR call time when F3 catches throw.
  9. Appeal OBR/NCAA/FED

    So no appeal allowed in your OP in NCAA. And I thought it was straightfoward. Until I recalled my clinic experience.
  10. Appeal OBR/NCAA/FED

    NCAA does have an interesting twist that could apply to your OP. If F3 did not play on R3 he might not be able to return the ball to 1B for an appeal. “5) If the defensive team errs on an appeal play and the ball remains in live-ball territory, the appeal will be allowed if: a) The ball immediately is returned to the base being appealed; and b) No runners advance on the misplay. If a runner(s) advances, no appeal shall be allowed.” edited to add. And now rethinking, even if F3 played on the runner who was safe I don’t think the wording of that rule would allow an appeal. This happened in a clinic game and U3 didn’t recognize the appeal for some reason other than the rule. When I mentioned the rule at the game site nobody believed me. That evening many were surprised at the rule wording and the clinic head did not believe NCAA wanted it enforced. He said he was going to call the rules guy. We never heard what was decided.
  11. Appeal OBR/NCAA/FED

    Seems pretty straightforward. What’s your twist?
  12. I didn’t see any ball spinning or other motion. I believe Nelson wanted him to have the ball in his hand visible at his side. He had his pitching arm at his side but his hand was in front of his hip. He had his glove in front of his left shoulder. Nelson ignored the technical violation (one of his hands at his side) the whole inning until he had R1. But I don’t think anyone would be in doubt about when Hudson was not set, was coming set, or was set.
  13. Appeal process gone awry

    LL softball does not allow dead ball appeals. It appears the pitcher complied with this: “In making an appeal, the pitcher shall not throw to a base while the foot is in contact with the pitcher’s plate. In putting the ball back into play, after taking the pitching position, the pitcher shall step backwards off the pitcher’s plate (with the pivot foot first) to begin the appeal. PENALTY: Illegal pitch (8.05(e)).” Excerpt From 2017 Little League Softball: Official Regulations, Playing Rules, and Policies Libre Digital This material may be protected by copyright.
  14. Which hand?

    The MLB umps might not confuse professionals with their signal and verbal. But, I have confused lower levels. Safe on a steal of 2B when he got under, right arm with palm flat extended out under my left arm with a loud, "he got under". Then a safe signal. Everybody thought I had an out with the right arm movement. I will revisit how I signal such things.
  15. Beats me? “4) By conference rule, or mutual consent of both coaches before the beginning of the contest, a game may be stopped after seven innings if one team is ahead by at least 10 runs. “
  16. 2-man mechanics

    Evans has what @noumpere says.
  17. Hello from PA

    It's not about the money for most (debatable) guys that take up this avocation. But I have used this line before to recruit a previous coach, baseball daddy: "You put a bunch of money into baseball while your kid was playing, now you get to take some out and get the best seat in the house." I heard it from somewhere else.
  18. Overrunning 1st base

    I'm biting my tongue on one of your myths but let's not go off topic.
  19. 3-2 steal, ball 4 mechanic

    I know. Just guessing why he might have wanted to be in C.
  20. 3-2 steal, ball 4 mechanic

    He was in C because R1 was going on a 3-2 count with 2 outs and there would be no play at 2B? But then how did that runner get thrown out by 5 feet unless he slowed down when he looked and or heard ball four?
  21. Fair or Foul

    “When in contact with the ground” implies a batted ball at rest. But if they mean any batted ball how do they want us to rule on a fly ball to the outfield that catches the white line on the blades of grass with, lets say, a quarter of the ball and hits the hard ground, never compressing the ground enough to contact fair territory below the grass. Do they realize a sphere can only be in contact with a non compressible flat surface at 1 point on its surface. Somebody wrapped his head around the word “settle” and did not think it through. A ball catching almost half the line could be foul if you see dirt as in Jim Evans clinic demo which calls it fair but if it made a dimple in the dirt when it came to rest it might then touch the line as the point contact expanded to a spherical cap.
  22. Fair or Foul

    So CWS Arkansas vs Oregon State. URF line read MLBUM but video review crew did not. Or ball compressed foul grass enough to contact fair territory. Or MLBUM interp only applies to a stationary ball between 3B and HP or 1B and HP that has dirt between its bottom and the white line
  23. CWS - FPSR UA vs OSU

    I thought NCAA rules required a slide unless you weren’t within distance to slide.
  24. CWS - FPSR UA vs OSU

    Yes, wasn’t there a no call in supers or regionals. The runner didn’t slide but was safe because of off the bag. Esteemed ump made the no call.
  25. I watched the whole inning he pitched on MLB TV. He takes his sign from the catcher with his pitching arm at his side/back. You can see the catcher give the sign. He then comes set at his belt without a reposition of his feet. That would comply with the Set position rule and some pitchers do it that way and then pitch. But in O'Days case, everyone knows that he is going to stretch to another stop.