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Jimurray

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  1. MLB Balk Rule

    Added the red.
  2. MLB Balk Rule

    Literal reading of only the rule would not have you wrong and probably nobody would blink an eye if you left R2 at 3B. The MLBUM wording of "actual pitch" and the #5 "unless all runners advance one base because of ball four" wording are what clarifies the rule but not every umpire knows to buy an MLBUM or MilBUM every year or two. I wonder if this is even covered in any amateur OBR/NCAA clinics?
  3. MLB Balk Rule

    You're gonna have to tell @MadMax to only like the first sentence of your post also
  4. Where is the arrow pointing?

    Just started watching my DVRd TT Fla CWS game. Nice to see common sense was being applied with Florida pitcher Brady Singer’s windup.
  5. 3 feet, continuing to advance,

    Interesting play. Should Timmons have been more emphatic or did U3 actually call the out and Timmons was just mirroring the call. The announcers had no doubt Bellinger was out: https://www.mlb.com/video/must-c-odd-rundown-in-la/c-2242474983?tid=6479266
  6. 3 feet, continuing to advance,

    2017 MLBUM does not require a physical tag attempt. The fielder was moving to tag the runner.
  7. MLB Balk Rule

    So does OBR and NCAA. Just not right away I linked a thread with @noumpere s post but it keeps disappearing.
  8. MLB Balk Rule

    This is not concise but it is a good summary from PBUC/MLBUM courtesy of @noumpere. Second page, fourth post down.
  9. MLB Balk Rule

    Your R2 Sit is incorrect unless it is ball four wild pitch. @noumpere posted the MLBUM when to call time verbiage a while ago. He might want to repost it in this thread.
  10. MLB Balk Rule

    Don’t thank him. He got it wrong with R2 unless it was ball four wild pitch. The MLBUM has a section on when to call time on a balk. With R2 and a caught ball 4 you call time when the pitch is caught by the catcher. The balk is enforced and R2 is awarded 3B and the batter stays at the plate with 3 balls.
  11. Balk-batter hits ball everyone freezes

    Contgratulations! This may be your first year umpiring but you have achieved a level of understanding of the OBR balk rule beyond the comprehension of some multi year umpires. It also is within the comprehension of many other umpires but they don't care to make the effort to learn the rules. You will have to tread lightly among your unknowing cohorts and may have to grin and bear it. You have the correct ruling.
  12. Interference

    Is it possible that the catcher came up throwing in the opposite batters box to avoid the batter attempting to interfere? Catchers do that in leagues with umpires that have no training or ganas to call BI. It would be BI.
  13. end of game

    I think he can be put out for missing it but how would this be appealed? He has all the time in the world to touch 1B. There is an esoteric desertion out if he doesn't and enters the dugout. To me it's game over as it would be on ball 3.
  14. end of game

    But what appeal is @maven Waiting for? The BR could miss 1B if he went there but can he miss it if he doesn't go there.
  15. end of game

    Doesn't the rule apply only with bases loaded? I don't see why we would require the batter to go to 1B with only R3
  16. Coach Assist on a forced runner

    If you are dealing with an MLB scorekeeper when the assist took place at HP you would not have to indicate anything. Watch the run get put up and then taken down just on the out for assist with no appeal: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/9780550/v11487843/must-c-curious-morgan-out-at-home-for-contact
  17. Coach Assist on a forced runner

    So we have this FED interp, "SITUATION 11: On a base hit to the outfield, the runner from third base comes home but misses touching home plate. The on-deck batter physically stops him and shoves him back to the plate, where he then touches it. RULING:Physical assistance by a teammate is not allowed unless both players are viable runners. The assisted runner is out and his run does not count. (2-21-1c, 5-1-2f, 3-2-2)," and an MLB occurrence where a runner missed HP and was called out for coach assist. The runner now is out and cannot legally correct his miss even if he did get pushed back to the plate. But it appears FED and OBR/MLB doesn't require an appeal of missing HP to not score the run. What if we had bases loaded with 2 outs and an extra base hit. R3 scores while R2 misses 3B while rounding it and the coach physically grabs him to push him back to 2B. The ump calls R2 out for the third out. Do we require an appeal of the miss to unscore the run or do we consider it an out on a forced runner.
  18. Coach Assist on a forced runner

    FED calls the runner out and does not score the run without an appeal at HP. I think the same thing happened in the MLB play. Are we treating HP different that the other bases? In most cases the physical assist is successful and the runner will have touched while he is out. Do we require the defense to know that that touch was not legal?
  19. That interp and the MLB occurrence got me thinking, dangerous thing. I'll start a coach assist topic under rule rather than take this one off the rails.
  20. I think FED adopted Wendelstedt's point of view based on this 2013 interp: "SITUATION 11: On a base hit to the outfield, the runner from third base comes home but misses touching home plate. The on-deck batter physically stops him and shoves him back to the plate, where he then touches it. RULING:Physical assistance by a teammate is not allowed unless both players are viable runners. The assisted runner is out and his run does not count. (2-21-1c, 5-1-2f, 3-2-2)"
  21. Except it is not correct. Did you read the Wendelstedt cite above or remember a FED caseplay/interp? This is regarding actual assistance of course which did not happen in the OP.
  22. Feign to Third Balk ?

    LL has not adjusted their book to the current OBR. In fact, they still have the rule in place where a literal rule reader (I know some) would use the LLG book 6.05(g) to call the batter out on a "double hit".
  23. The MLBUM added some interesting geometric lines to their passing a base in the last year or two. But they did not include HP. Most likely he would have touched HP if he did not slide slightly into the infield but he did not and did not pass it.
  24. Losing contact with the rubber during the windup?

    He, if aRHP, is walking into 3B not the pitch. The literal rule does not allow a pitcher to lift his pivot foot. But CSAFP allow a pitcher to re position his perpendicular (normal windup), angled (hybrid windup) to a sideways contact with the rubber by lifting it and turning it. This reposition is not a step. Most sideways windup pitchers don't have to lift since they are already parallel but some do anyway. The advice is to judge walking INTO the pitch , not to judge breaking pivot foot contact with the rubber.
  25. I would be if the teammate was a retired runner as in the MLB sit where a scored runner pushed the following runner back to the plate.
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