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  1. Jimurray

    Ball bounces over 3rd base into foul territory

    It would be nice if MLB revised the rule to include "any" in the appropriate spots in the fair definition and "all of" in the appropriate spots in the foul definition. But CCS implies that they did not want to go thru a rule change and only clarified a "settled" ball in exactly the opposite way most of us thought it was called, including Jim Evans. What does J-R say about a ball settled on foul territory with some of it, let's say a portion less than half, over fair territory?
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    Ball bounces over 3rd base into foul territory

    That logic works unless you buy into the MLBUM interp. A ball settled a millimeter before touching the bag and touching foul territory but also over fair territory is now foul. If it rolled a millimeter more and touched the bag it becomes fair.
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    Ball bounces over 3rd base into foul territory

    We all would pick fair if any part of the ball meets the fair definition. MLB muddied the waters with their MLBUM interp of a “settled” ball.
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    Ball bounces over 3rd base into foul territory

    The OP doesn't specify and we can assume the whole ball caught the bag's front corner on the foul line but you also could assume it was curving and part of the ball caught the corner. That part "is on or over fair territory when bounding to the outfield past first or third base." The rest of the ball would "bounds past first or third base on or over foul territory,".
  5. How long has the "oven Mitt" been around? Seems a "stretch" what you can wear on your hands although I don't know if batting gloves are legislated. If you are gonna wear it on the bases you should bat with it. I sense an MLB ruling next year.
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    Ball bounces over 3rd base into foul territory

    We all have a fair ball if any part of the ball satisfies the fair ball definition. But part of the OP’s ball might have also satisfied the foul ball definition. We defer to fair when we have a semantic problem in the rules. Except if you accept the current MLBUM interp of a settled ball which does not apply here.
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    check swing appeal on dropped third strike

    You must have hit the return button a lot. But, if the batter could attempt 1B, one signal would be a point with the slot arm and a "yes he did" verbal if the PU had an attempt but since you said appeal that didn't happen. The BU would not have a signal in that case and everyone would know what to. So in your case the signal would be an immediate "did he go" with his left arm (MLB umps might use a different arm but they will know what they are doing) pointing to the correct line ump if the PU did not have an attempt from his view. The BU would then signal yes or no and everyone would know what to do. Sometimes the PU is slow or unsure and at competent levels the BU will give a "yes he did", almost right away if he had an attempt and everyone will know what to do. The actual signals are a left arm point (MLB excluded) by the PU and a safe or out signal by the PU accompanied by verbals if needed. What happened in your sit
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    4-man Rotation and Push

    Wouldn't those be standard in any association? Granted some associations have some members who consider going out as a turn in place. Granting time on a walk is not covered in the OBR rules and Wendelstedt's guidance was followed in this case. Most of us follow his guidance in NCAA and FED even though they have a rule against it.
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    Assistant Coach

    In the OP R1 is not even a retired runner but your point is well taken.
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    Assistant Coach

    If R1 is retreating from a tag wouldn't that be normal baserunning? Are you saying once he reaches the bag he would be at risk for unintentional interference with a throw?
  11. Unless it was a bases loaded balk with the pitch thrown for ball four. Then you would have to tell the batter to go touch 1B.
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    Are we expanding UI?

    9/11, Toronto - Boston, top 6 with R3, catcher muffs pitch in the dirt and while catcher is chasing it PU, Jim Wolf, getting out of his way kicks ball and calls time, stopping R3 from advancing. R3 was holding until the kick. No protest, no problem, except for next time when you keep ball live.
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    Does this run count?

    The OP was umpiring although he might not have been an umpire. Perhaps we should ask him to elaborate on how many guys in blue shirts were at the game and what position he was in when he ruled. And what the other person in blue shirt if there was one, did rule. Then again there have been so many of these time play questions that I might suspect a troll.
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    The Devil

    That's not funny.
  15. Brings to mind this quote from a CBUA bulletin: "STOP TALKING FOR NO REASON . . . STOP FRATERNIZING WITH PLAYERS AND COACHES . . . STOP ACKNOWLEDGING FANS . . . STOP TRYING TO BE POPULAR WITH THE PARTICIPANTS . . . Just be businesslike, answer reasonable questions, be approachable when approached properly, etc. . . . BUT, BEYOND THAT PLEASE SHUT UP!!!!! Geez, Fetch, we know this is your pet peeve, but what is the big deal? The big deal is that your ratings are taking a beating from coaches, observers, crew chiefs, NCAA evaluators, etc. You’re not fooling anyone . . . coaches do not want you on the field kissing babies and running for mayor, they want you focused and working hard at your craft. Guys are losing opportunities for more D-I games, conference tourneys and NCAA post season strictly based on focus and professionalism. If you’re too busy talking, you aren’t focused on umpiring. By the way—SHUT UP, or did I already mention that?"
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    Is the player out

    Yes, who said that? I don't see anyone saying that.
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    I don’t think he left early. U2 seemed to be right in line but tv doesn’t stay there. But an amazing lack of appeal knowledge on the part of the team. Most coaches at that level teach how to do it, at least the simple take rubber step off and throw. Right @Rich Ives ?
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    Courtesy of ESPN replay, F1 would have been balked in MLB when he had a slight start stop flinch to come set just before the first step off, then at any level he would have been balked when he reengaged with a live ball and then turned but did not step off. What was not a balk/IP, which the 3BC wanted, was the last step off when he threw to 3B. That was legal. But I have F5 tagging the runner at 3B which should have been ruled on by U2 who busted inside and appeared to have a great lineup of the catch and tag.
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    Just to be precise, there are no balks but violations of the LLGB 8.05 in the Major league division is an illegal pitch (ball) with runners on. Very rare to have a violation, but it can happen. What happened? Would a ball added to the count mattered in the game?
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    Why address it at upper levels if the catcher is not complaining and the pitcher is dealing with it effectively? Just call that inside strike. It's a legal swinging position as soon as the ball is on the way.
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    Appeal play

    One semantic quibble with JR, by rule the runner has to retouch before the base or the runner (@beerguy55 will not like the possibility of a runner being called out while touching the base) is tagged. Common sense says go with JR.
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    Appeal play

    Or tag R1 who probably was still returning to 2B based on the OP description.
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    Out or foul ball?

    I don't know where my memory of this comes from. There is a 2010 interp that calls it the same way as the current caseplay. Maybe I have been led astray by @maven in this and the retired runner interp
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    Out or foul ball?

    I think FED used to rule differently but now they do not: "*5.1.1 SITUATION N: With R3 at third and F5 playing deep, B2 hits a ball that caroms off the base into foul territory where it touches R3. RULING: A runner who is hit by a batted fair ball in foul territory is not out and the ball remains live."
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    2019 CBUA Registration

    Do you mean this: http://cbua.arbitersports.com/Groups/103681/Library/files/Updated CBUA Join Memo 2019.pdf