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ump_24 last won the day on March 20 2013

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  1. Officiating other sports

    Can you send whoever negotiates your pay rates up here? 37 to wear the bands, 29 to line the same game where I skate. Although it sounds like you use the 2-1 3-Man instead of the traditional 1-2. Also, you must have a flood between each period...we can bang out a 15-15-F-15 in ~ 1:20 on most days.
  2. Is this legal in today's game?

    No interference however, a minor penalty for charging.
  3. 6 man rotation

    No runners: U2 has primary fly ball jurisdiction. If U2 goes out, U2, ULF, and URF will all move towards the ball. The umpire facing the fielder's open glove will normally make the call. U2 has first 'right of refusal'. Rotation on the infield remains the same as if this was a 4-man (PU to 3B, U1 to HP if BR reaches 2B). ULF / URF have any ball taking their outfielder towards their line. Runners on: ULF and URF will move towards all fly balls in the outfield. ULF will normally take the call for all balls from the LF line to anything taking the CF to his right. URF will normally take the call for all balls from the RF line to anything taking the CF to his right. Balls taking F8 in or backwards will normally be made by the umpire looking at the fielder's open glove. During the play in question, ULF would have initially broke out into the outfield and then returned to the vicinity of the infield to monitor the status of a potential overthrow. Overthrows typically belong to ULF and URF in a 6-man system.
  4. HBP ... ball, or take your base?

    3-2 count...pitch is off the plate. Lean or no lean, Victorino to 1B.
  5. These are TOUGH calls!!

    Hey guys, check the count on the HBP situation...it's 3-2. So what if he leaned into it? Pitch was well off the plate by MLB standard, so it's a moot point. You're not going to go "Time, stay here, that's a ball. Ball 4. Go to first." Tag play is a tough one. You've got to try and get to a position directly on the base path between 1B and 2B - very difficult - otherwise, your only hope is to read reactions and probably flip a coin as well.
  6. 2 in same game

    Cabrera is not asking Gorman to appeal to Randazzo to see if he will overturn the strike call...he is protesting the fact that Gorman chose to rule on the swing himself instead of asking Randazzo in the first place. It would be an interesting statistic to see what the QoC % of home plate umpires ruling on half-swings on their own is.
  7. 3 man MiLB mechanic?

    "Go out and stay out" is in manuals because when you are not working a system on a regular basis, it is the simplest way of doing things so not as to confuse the umpires. Once the F/F call is made, what are U1's responsibilities? Depending on which park the game was at, there may or may not be the potential for fan interference - if there is not, why waste an umpire by having him stand, at most, ten feet outside of the infield based on an arbitrary manual rule? Any ball to the corner is a clear double, the close play will be at 3B (should it occur). Returning after the F/F call allows U3 to move directly to 3B and position themselves in a spot that will allow them to read the throw and runner and position accordingly, because U1 has moved in and has the B-R at 2B, instead of having to wait in the working area to read the B-R and then trail them into 3B while trying to adjust for the play, all the while avoiding the throw of course. When you work with the same guys for an entire season, it is a lot easier to modify things like this almost on the fly. This is just one of many advanced mechanics for a 3 umpire system that you won't find in a manual.
  8. ....and this isn't a balk?

    Or, novel concept here, perhaps the "first" balk posted was simply called in error. I maintain that both moves are good moves.
  9. Is 2nd base vacant here?

    In CCA he does on the situation with R1, R2 and caught fly ball. Are you sure it isn't the same in pro mechanics? It was the last time I checked which I admit has been a while now because more people have CCA and we tend to use it even in non college games I do. I am absolutely positive...my answer was reflective of current pro mechanics, according to their manual. Didn't realize CCA did it differently.
  10. Balk!

    That is not a balk. Unless VC felt the front knee broke prior to the move being initiated.
  11. Is 2nd base vacant here?

    PU does not leave the plate in 4 man anytime a runner is in scoring position, regardless of outs. The only time PU will rotate in 4 man is with nobody on and someone goes out (either to 1B if U1 goes, or 3B if U2 / U3 goes) and with R1 and U3 goes out - he would then go to 3B. With R1 / R2, as stated above U1 / U2 will slide over. The textbook mechanic is for U2 to move in to the mound area, take R2's tag, and bounce to 3B. If U2 is a bit slower, a crew can modify coverage and let him move straight to 3B and U1 can pick up R2's tag as he comes in.
  12. Going up and back is not the "only" way to adjust when squeezed by a catcher and / or batter. However, this is not intended to suggest that going into the middle of the plate is a wise adjustment either.
  13. The purpose of this rule is to prevent a fielder from stationing themselves in foul territory for the purpose of backing up an appeal play or potential wild pitch. Should they violate the rule, you instruct them to move to fair territory. Until they comply, the ball is not put in play. Should they refuse to comply, guess what? *snap* If they choose to start fair and go foul once play commences, so be it.
  14. Foul ball off the foot/shin

    When you see it, call it. But if you don't see it, whether or not it's because you blinked, flinched, or got blocked out by the catcher moving to catch / block the pitch, you can still put together the evidence real fast. Obviously, BU seeing and subsequently calling it is the preferred method. Otherwise, play a percentage game looking at the following factors. - reaction of the batter (be aware though, batters are being taught to fake this when they pound a weak hit into the ground in the vicinity of the plate) - reaction of the defense - trajectory of the baseball - spin of the baseball Personally, when the ball is hit down and appears in heading in the vicinity of the batter's feet and I can't see whether or not it got him, right away, I'm looking for the way the ball rebounds off the ground. If I'm still inconslusive at that point, after that, I'm looking to see the spin of the baseball. Anything that doesn't look "normal", I'm prepared to give the batter the benefit of the doubt. If necessary, I'll also check the batter's reaction. Quickly thinking back, I cannot recall one instance where I called a ball foul in the box where the batter was hobbling around as if he had been shot where the defensive team argued (of course, this will now happen next plate). Bear in mind though, like I said, they will try and sell a ball off their foot if they squib one. The best example of this was a couple years ago, the batter hit the pitch straight into the ground in front of the plate, a small cloud of dust puffed up near the lip of the plate grass / dirt line, it rolled all the way out to the shortstop right past me (BU), as the batter starts hobbling around on his left (front) leg. F6 picks up the ball and records the out at 1B. Batter then begins limping back to the dugout, favouring his right leg. And FWIW, unless you are explicitly told otherwise, BU should be killing the ball as soon as he sees it hit the batter. If he is clearly in the box, there is nothing wrong with calling "foul". Calling "time" is only necessary if you have a situation where the batter has contacted the ball and may be out of the box. Everybody should be capable of differentiating the two situations and no umpire should ever be reprimanded for calling "foul" when the batter is clearly still in the box.