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Zobrist - Computer Ump Would Have Called Strike 3, Too

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Gil    293

After striking out to end a Cubs game, Ben Zobrist called for a computer strike zone. The problem? A robo-ump would have ruled the decisive pitch a strike, just as plate umpire Mark Wegner did. Zobrist & Maddon question Wegner as he leaves the field.The Play: With two out and two on with the...

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dumbdumb    305
8 hours ago, Gil said:

After striking out to end a Cubs game, Ben Zobrist called for a computer strike zone. The problem? A robo-ump would have ruled the decisive pitch a strike, just as plate umpire Mark Wegner did. Zobrist & Maddon question Wegner as he leaves the field.The Play: With two out and two on with the...

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But where is the pitch fx for the Tiger game with Angel the other day to see tha at bat with Kinsler and to see for the whole game after Kinsler's monologue on USA today.

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Thunderheads    2,361
27 minutes ago, dumbdumb said:

But where is the pitch fx for the Tiger game with Angel the other day to see tha at bat with Kinsler and to see for the whole game after Kinsler's monologue on USA today.

YES!!  I'm not so sure Kinsler is complaining about the at-bat that he was ejected but moreso the one prior.  Can't find it ...

Also .... whether that ball crossed through the strike zone or not ....   that's a ball 99.9999999999% of the time ..... even in high-school!

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grayhawk    3,142
2 hours ago, Thunderheads said:

YES!!  I'm not so sure Kinsler is complaining about the at-bat that he was ejected but moreso the one prior.  Can't find it ...

Also .... whether that ball crossed through the strike zone or not ....   that's a ball 99.9999999999% of the time ..... even in high-school!

I have balled many breaking pitches that I suspected caught the bottom of the zone but was received near the dirt.  Generally, there are no complaints, but I am also not being evaluated by Pitch f/x either.  MLB umpires are using the catcher's mitt to call balls and strikes less and less.

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Thunderheads    2,361
3 minutes ago, grayhawk said:

I have balled many breaking pitches that I suspected caught the bottom of the zone but was received near the dirt.  Generally, there are no complaints, but I am also not being evaluated by Pitch f/x either.  MLB umpires are using the catcher's mitt to call balls and strikes less and less.

of course.

also, the MLB guys are FAR, FAR superior than we are, thus, .... they can delineate pitches in far more detail :nod:  

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Gil    293
3 hours ago, dumbdumb said:

But where is the pitch fx for the Tiger game with Angel the other day to see tha at bat with Kinsler and to see for the whole game after Kinsler's monologue on USA today.

Right here? http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/08/mlb-ejections-134-35-angel-hernandez-1.html

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(px .478, pz 1.616 [sz_bot 1.535] - this is 0.97 inches above the bottom of the strike zone)

The computer's ball/strike data for the game has since been deleted from MLBAM's database. Don't think it's anything special for Kinsler/Hernandez though....px and pz data for the entire day across other games on the schedule also disappeared from the database.

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Thunderheads    2,361
40 minutes ago, Gil said:

Right here? http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/08/mlb-ejections-134-35-angel-hernandez-1.html

The computer's ball/strike data for the game has since been deleted from MLBAM's database. Don't think it's anything special for Kinsler/Hernandez though....px and pz data for the entire day across other games on the schedule also disappeared from the database.

I don't see the chart on that link

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udbrky    240

The odd thing is, the PU the other day said he blew that call vs Zobrist. Zobrist does have a reputation - almost Votto-ish for knowing the zone really well. 

 

I thought the pitch was in the strike zone watching the game and looking at brooks. I thought it wasn't a strike based on how it was caught though - for the MLB.

 

But I lol'd at all the "robot umps" people, because that was a robot ump strike. Those guys just say that **** though every time a call goes against their team.

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dumbdumb    305

Boss says---not so fast with the computer/robo-ump

baseball needs the arguments

keep a few non-reviewable (new york) situations just so a manager with a horrible team has something to get tossed about 6-12 times when needed. Also good for 1-5 tosses for a guy running away with the title. check swings, balks, etc. or at least several that they can only huddle about on the field and then either manager can scream and get tossed when the call doesn't go their way.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2017/08/17/mlb-commissioner-rob-manfred-dont-expect-robot-umpires-anytime-soon/578381001/

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