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Comparison Force3 Ultimate Shin Guards vs Honigs K20-15s - Initial Impressions

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Hello all,

So I had this all done earlier at work and my IT Department has decided to ban anything to do with sports. So needless to say as I hit submit, the blocker took effect. This may not be as eloquent as earlier. I hope I get everything said that I want to.

This is a short comparrison...

It is not a full review as I have yet to use them on the ballfield. But this is what I noticed from handling them and working with them over the last couple days.

The Honigs are wider, and not shaped to contour to your leg. The F3s are slimmer and contoured in a manner that your leg is cupped by the guard even before the straps are latched.

The padding is a lot thicker in the Honigs, but in my experience can be very hot. The F3s appear to be lighter, airier material. The padding is removable in both guards, but the F3 has a layer of padding that remains on the plastic shell where the Honigs do not.

Both have 4 straps in similar placement on the guards. The F3 straps are tight being that they are new, so at this time the comparrison on movement will have to wait until I can wear them. That being said, just strapping them on, the contour of the F3 shell doesn't allow for much spin when strapped in. The F3s are a whole lot slimmer. I managed to get my dress pants over the F3s. Wouldn't have happened with the Honigs.

I am also looking forward to the [mention=1907]Razzer[/mention] Shin harness. He is a fellow umpire for those who don't know that has a line of gear, harnesses, lineup cards, mats, stools that he customizes with names and etc. Check out his facebook page Umplife.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/307083899500685/

Overall my initial impressions are favorable. I can't wait to try these out and see if they are worth the money. It may take me the rest of the season, but we will see.

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Your first mistake was trying to post anything sports related during March Madness.

Second, you will find Mr. Brownlie (and my first contact with him was here) as @Razzer here on UE.

 

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3 hours ago, dl1340 said:

Force 3 best shin guards on market!!!!!

Yes they are.

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Can I get those plate shoes in Ump-Attire, AllSports East or The Sports Loft?


Lol Shoe Carnival special lol


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5 hours ago, Umpire_ar said:

 


Lol Shoe Carnival special lol


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Bound to be a fashion hit on the diamond.

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None of what I'm about to say, @Umpire_ar, is directed at you specifically. Also, I admire and encourage your willingness to write a product comparison and review of umpire gear – we need more of these, covering a variety of items and brands!

Thing is though, when it comes to shin guards, there is no comparison between the Force3 Ultimates and anything else in that same class. If you're doing any level of baseball (or even Fastpitch softball) beyond 12-13U, want the lightest, least cumbersome, least stifling, most protective pieces of equipment available, you perform a quick but decisive logic process with that part of your brain which steps in and prevents you from making otherwise impulsive decisions – such as purchasing a 60" 4K TV, getting on a rollercoaster named "The Hair-brained Scheme", or asking out Brittany Abbindola in college (before she went on to graduate summa cum laude in economics _and_ be featured in a Girls of the Big Sky Valley Plains Gulf 12 Conference calendar).

"We should get these Force3 shinguards!"

"But they're $120!?!!"

"They are comprised of Kevlar, and are exceptionally light and form fitting."

"But they don't have the MLB logo on them like the Wilsons do! Didn't Brian Brandfellow, our umpire mentor in our local association say at the meeting that we should buy nothing but Wilson gear, because that's what the Big Leaguers use??"

... "Didn't the guys on U-E say something about how long your gear is expected to last, though, and that the Force3 shinguards will last you the rest of your career?"

To be fair, I would consider the offerings of Douglas and All-Star and even Wilson when it comes to comparing items such as these. If you're operating in a budget, it's understandable that Champro or Diamond (or Honig's or +POS) guards at $65 become more feasible. However, when you consider that you'll never want to – or need to, barring theft or Tico your Rottweiler chewing them (Bad Tico! Bad!) – purchase any other shin guards again, it becomes remarkably easy to hit the Order button.

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I loved the Force3 shins so much I ordered a 2nd pair as my backup so I never had to wear anything else.

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None of what I'm about to say, [mention=4453]Umpire_ar[/mention], is directed at you specifically. Also, I admire and encourage your willingness to write a product comparison and review of umpire gear – we need more of these, covering a variety of items and brands!
Thing is though, when it comes to shin guards, there is no comparison between the Force3 Ultimates and anything else in that same class. If you're doing any level of baseball (or even Fastpitch softball) beyond 12-13U, want the lightest, least cumbersome, least stifling, most protective pieces of equipment available, you perform a quick but decisive logic process with that part of your brain which steps in and prevents you from making otherwise impulsive decisions – such as purchasing a 60" 4K TV, getting on a rollercoaster named "The Hair-brained Scheme", or asking out Brittany Abbindola in college (before she went on to graduate summa cum laude in economics _and_ be featured in a Girls of the Big Sky Valley Plains Gulf 12 Conference calendar).
"We should get these Force3 shinguards!"
"But they're $120!?!!"
"They are comprised of Kevlar, and are exceptionally light and form fitting."
"But they don't have the MLB logo on them like the Wilsons do! Didn't Brian Brandfellow, our umpire mentor in our local association say at the meeting that we should buy nothing but Wilson gear, because that's what the Big Leaguers use??"
... "Didn't the guys on U-E say something about how long your gear is expected to last, though, and that the Force3 shinguards will last you the rest of your career?"
To be fair, I would consider the offerings of Douglas and All-Star and even Wilson when it comes to comparing items such as these. If you're operating in a budget, it's understandable that Champro or Diamond (or Honig's or +POS) guards at $65 become more feasible. However, when you consider that you'll never want to – or need to, barring theft or Tico your Rottweiler chewing them (Bad Tico! Bad!) – purchase any other shin guards again, it becomes remarkably easy to hit the Order button.


Well stated. Using them for the first time tonight! Let's see if they live up to the hype!


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Man, @MadMax, you've got me pumped. I replaced my ten year old Wilson pads with the F3's this year. First run on Sunday, can't wait to see the difference.

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Ok so here we go. F3s are AMAZING. So light and snug. They didn't move one bit. Didn't have to adjust the slightest bit. I could move without feeling like Sasquatch. Took one shot and it felt like I bumped into something soft. I am definitely going to get a second pair!


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I popped on a pair a couple years ago. Best shinguards ive ever owned. Could never find ones that didn't flop around or turn when i moved around the field.

I will buy a 2nd pair as well at some point.

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